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Story: Gartner Evaluates Progress Of LinuxTotal Replies: 8
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jimf

Sep 08, 2005
8:19 AM EDT
Don't cha just love self professed 'experts' ;-)...
phsolide

Sep 08, 2005
12:42 PM EDT
Another Gartner publicity hit.

Has anyone heard of a Gartner "Hype Cycle" before this, or is Gartner just making this up as they go along?
dinotrac

Sep 08, 2005
12:57 PM EDT
Gartner's been using the Hype Cycle since 1995. They've been using it on Linux for years.
phsolide

Sep 08, 2005
5:45 PM EDT
Quoting:Gartner's been using the Hype Cycle since 1995. They've been using it on Linux for years.


Well, bless their shrunken, bloodless hearts. Got a pointer to this "Hype Cycle" thinger? 'Cause that useless, PR hit of an article didn't have any reference to it.
dinotrac

Sep 08, 2005
6:13 PM EDT
Let me see if I can find one. I remember seeing articles about it 5-6 years ago, trying to paint Linux as the next great hype.

I suppose it made a certain kind of offbeat sense...the dot.com bubble hadn't completely burst and IT folks were constantly bombarded by one hype after another.

Trouble is, Linux never fit that model, which never stopped Gartner from trying to make it fit.
dinotrac

Sep 08, 2005
6:30 PM EDT
phsolide: A little Google goes a long way. Remember, the test of something's existence is whether it exists, not whether you've heard of it.

In the case of the Hype-Cycle (at least as a trademarked Gartner reporting concent), it exists. What it's good for is anybody's guess.

The official hype-cycle link: http://www.gartner.com/pages/story.php.id.8795.s.8.jsp

Here's a 2004 article on the idea: http://www.infoconomy.com/pages/storage-strategy/group99854....

A Gartner hype cycle report from mid 2003: http://www.gartner.com/5_about/press_releases/pr11june2003c....

A somewhat blistering criticism of that report: http://infosecuritymag.techtarget.com/2003/jul/note.shtml

A mid 2002 article referring to it: http://www.infoworld.com/article/02/11/15/021118opnoise_1.ht...

From early 2001, a rather gloomy assessment of Linux: http://news.com.com/2100-1001-254036.html?legacy=cnet&tag=cd...
bstadil

Sep 08, 2005
6:58 PM EDT
Dinotrac As much as I hate to admit it but Gartner was actually right in their 2001 article. They are assessing distributions not Linux per se. From the articles conclusion

As with Unix, the market can sustain three, maybe four, different Linux distributors, along with a perhaps few niche players.

Today we have RH, SUSE and Debian everything else being a derivative of those or very small. (Don't know about the Asian versions / market)
dinotrac

Sep 08, 2005
11:36 PM EDT
Bstadil -

True enough. I still think their hype cycle model is confused as applied to Linux, as opposed to Linux companies or Linux products. On the other hand, maybe it just seems that way because so many people have trouble distinguishing Linux from its distributors, etc.
Abe

Sep 10, 2005
8:16 AM EDT
Reading Gartner and their likes articles is total waste of time. Each new article they publish is more confused than the previous ones. They have nothing in them but made up studies and useless predictions. They are as hollow as a sea shell and nothing but Dra'at al-blat (fart on marble - learnt this famous common Lebanese proverb from a friend of mine this morning. It means "Just like talking from their arse to the wall").

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