"Darned" Small Linux
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| Author | Content |
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| Steven_Rosenber Oct 16, 2008 1:32 PM EDT |
The writer just isn't comfortable saying Damn Small Linux. I wonder how he feels about the inet daemon ... |
| herzeleid Oct 16, 2008 2:50 PM EDT |
In other news, a fork called "dang small linux" has been announced on the usual irc channels. |
| tuxchick Oct 16, 2008 3:41 PM EDT |
and for rural geeks, the Dagnabit Edition |
| tracyanne Oct 16, 2008 4:40 PM EDT |
For us Australians there's 'Bl00dy Small Linux Mate' |
| eggi Oct 16, 2008 8:54 PM EDT |
No problem with DSL, I'm just very sensitive to the word. I was raised by damned dirty apes ;) Damned in the first paragraph twice, too :) What "is" the policy on swearing on this board? :P , Mike ...Damned straight to Hell |
| tracyanne Oct 16, 2008 9:29 PM EDT |
You aren't allowed to say Funk and Wagnell, if that's what you mean |
| tuxchick Oct 16, 2008 9:50 PM EDT |
eggi, you have sealed your doom, and Big Mean Editor Scott is going to stand you in the corner. |
| tracyanne Oct 16, 2008 9:55 PM EDT |
with a placard that reads "I'm damned if a I do, damned if i don't, damned if I care." |
| tuxchick Oct 16, 2008 10:24 PM EDT |
BTW Mr eggi, my cats confiscated your skinning knives and are after you as well. |
| Scott_Ruecker Oct 16, 2008 11:49 PM EDT |
Ok, so about the swearing... Damn Small Linux is just fine, the straight to hell and most (if not all) of the negative implementations of such language thereof are not..ok. edit: I will say that I believe that our readers and forum posters have vocabularies that enable them to avoid such entanglements if they wish.. |
| gus3 Oct 17, 2008 12:00 AM EDT |
To Scott: You use big words. Please stop. |
| Scott_Ruecker Oct 17, 2008 1:20 AM EDT |
Oh and it was the succulent joy of spelling them correctly, as I typed them, that is still sweeter than your cries of deterrence my fair man... hee hee.. |
| Bob_Robertson Oct 17, 2008 8:54 AM EDT |
Have you ever heard George Carlin's routine, "Seven Words You Can't Say On Television"? It was Col. Jeff Cooper I first read who said, "Profanity is an indication of insufficient vocabulary." And then there's Bill Cosby's take on the situation, "But dad, I'm Jesus Christ!" |
| tracyanne Oct 17, 2008 9:01 AM EDT |
Quoting:It was Col. Jeff Cooper I first read who said, "Profanity is an indication of insufficient vocabulary." He was, and is wrong. |
| Bob_Robertson Oct 17, 2008 10:47 AM EDT |
> He was, and is wrong. Was. Dead, last year. I disagree with you, in that I see the mindless repetition of "fark this, fark that, farking up a tree..." as simple carelessness. A disregard for language. Email may be helping, because endless streams of "fark fark fark", "you know you know you know" is very apparent in writing while mindlessness disguises it in speaking. One gentleman I worked with said "you know" (worse, "yeno" without even the pretense of having it be two words) one hundred thirty two times in a single half-hour meeting. No one noticed, I assume, the hash marks on my meeting minutes, one for each time he uttered the syllables. Profanity, vulgarity I guess would be a better term since we're not referring to only religious phrases, has its uses. To paraphrase George C. Scott paraphrasing George S. Patton, "When I want them remember it I give it to them loud and dirty." However, I will assert from own experience that mindless vulgarity is a demonstration of personal carelessness, someone not paying any attention to what is coming out of their mouth. Such a person generally also doesn't pay any attention to anything else, either. |
| jezuch Oct 17, 2008 4:09 PM EDT |
On the other hand, there's creative use of expletives. I once wrote a poem like that. But I'll admit I ain't good at it ;) |
| tracyanne Oct 17, 2008 6:10 PM EDT |
Quoting:I will assert from own experience that mindless vulgarity... That is a different position to "Profanity is an indication of insufficient vocabulary." and it's a position I agree with. |
| Sander_Marechal Oct 17, 2008 9:32 PM EDT |
Quoting:Profanity is an indication of insufficient vocabulary. Definitely not true. I just happened to catch an old episode of "A Bit of Fry and Laurie" on Humor TV. It was a sketch with Stephen Fry launching in a fantastic, creative flood of vulgarity and profanity against his grandma. It was brilliant. Outing four letter words is easy, but good, creative and witty insults can be an art form in their own right. |
| eggi Oct 17, 2008 9:34 PM EDT |
I agree, a little bit, with everyone's point of view, because you all make important points (even if you don't mean to ;) and I've been diagnosed as a chronic people-pleaser. My take on profanity, in all seriousness, is this: It exists for a purpose. If used indelicately, and as more of a mannerism, it loses the "punch" it was intended to pack. Even so, people, in certain situations or in certain professions, can make it work. When that happens, however, there's always something more substantive behind the vulgarity. Lenny Bruce went out of his way to introduce profanity in comedy to make a point about social and moral censorship. Andrew Dice Clay assumed a persona for his stand-up routine that could make you numb to any sort of horrendous chain-of-obscenities imaginable. He did it so well, certain members of SNL refused to tape the show when he guest-hosted. Eddie Murphy, Chris Rock, George Carlin (R.I.P. God bless him, he was one of my favorites) all made use of profanity in their routines. All of these folks had one thing in common (although we may agree to disagree about some of them): They were funny. Swearing for swearing's sake isn't humorous, entertaining or even interesting. Tuxchick - I own four cats. I reserve the right to fantasize about skinning them ;) I disagree whole-heartedly with the statement that the use of profanity is in any way indicative of a lack of sufficient vocabulary. Some folks just swear a lot. In between the flowery prose ;) And, like Bob Robertson, I find the "like"s and "Y'know"s much more irritating than profane language. It runs a close second to listening to the guy on the other side of my cubicle who slurps his coffee from 9 to 5 and may or may not be achieving orgasm simultaneously (he "really" loves his coffee). But, I do agree, that, if you want profanity to really impress, you should save it for when it's required. When a monk breaks his vow of silence to tell you go fark yourself, it's a lot more impressive than when the guy at the newspaper stand asks if you're going to pay for the farking paper, like he does to everyone who so much as browses a headline. My extra 2 cents... Great comments :) , Mike |
| InTheLoop Oct 17, 2008 10:37 PM EDT |
This has got to be the funniest thread I have ever seen on LXer (or any Linux site for that matter). "One gentleman I worked with said "you know" (worse, "yeno" without even the pretense of having it be two words) one hundred thirty two times in a single half-hour meeting. No one noticed, I assume, the hash marks on my meeting minutes, one for each time he uttered the syllables." "and for rural geeks, the Dagnabit Edition" Wow. |
| Sander_Marechal Oct 18, 2008 3:31 AM EDT |
By the way, I just found the script of that Stephen Fry sketch I mentioned above. http://www.geocities.com/mmemym/bits4/fal0203.htm |
| Bob_Robertson Oct 19, 2008 11:17 AM EDT |
> George Carlin (R.I.P. God bless him, he was one of my favorites) Carlin, beyond being a linguistic genius, was also an atheist. |
| vainrveenr Oct 19, 2008 1:42 PM EDT |
Quoting:Ok, so about the swearing... Other negative 'D's on the big word vocabulary besides Damn, Damned and Dagnabit could be Debased, Debauched, Degenerate, Degraded, or Dissolute. Somehow, though, none of these other 'D''s reach the emotional intensity of how small DSL really is other than 'Damn'...... and D-A-M-N, it's really that small !! :D |
| gus3 Oct 19, 2008 2:02 PM EDT |
What about on the other end? Divine Delightful Dashing Dapper (no, wait, that's taken) |
| hkwint Oct 19, 2008 4:08 PM EDT |
Divine Small Linux... Sounds good.Quoting:You aren't allowed to say Funk and Wagnell, if that's what you mean You're confusing Wagnell with WagEdd I assume? Anyway, it's sad you can't say "Reproducing activity" in one word on forums, because where would the world be without that reproducing activity? And about Damn... It used to be 'doomed to hell for its sins'. But I don't think that's what the makers of DSL are hoping for their distro. |
| azerthoth Oct 19, 2008 4:30 PM EDT |
fornicate |
| hkwint Oct 19, 2008 4:42 PM EDT |
azertoth: WP says that only goes for unmarried persons. I'm not married, so WORKSFORME, but probably not for everybody. |
| eggi Oct 19, 2008 10:24 PM EDT |
Bob, Yes, Old George was an atheist. One of his funniest "tv bits" I ever saw was on MadTV, when they did a parody of "Touched by an angel" (Anyone remember that show? If not; I envy you ;) called "Touched by an atheist." Really hilarious stuff. If the link's allowed, you can find it here (or just look it up on youtube if it gets pulled): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B_7e8qgTnQ My "God Bless Him" was not intended to contradict his spiritual beliefs or posthumously impose mine on him; just a heartfelt goodbye. I think the world (or, at least, the world of comedy, theater and literature) lost a great and important voice when he passed away. Now, back to our regularly scheduled light-hearted discussion of DSL. I got a comment that it's also referred to as "Demi Sized Linux." Neither derogatory nor profane. Seems like a fair translation :) , Mike |
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