I think that makes it pretty clear what Microsoft's position
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| tracyanne May 04, 2011 1:27 AM EDT |
what Microsoft's position is re Mono. |
| r_a_trip May 04, 2011 6:51 AM EDT |
@tracyanne. Yup, pretty much. Mono was the trojan horse that failed to infect. No need to keep it around any longer. (That and .NET seems to have partly failed within MS as well.) The new modus operandi seems to be patent nuisance suits by proxy. CPTN failed too, so a direct(er) approach is off as well. |
| JaseP May 04, 2011 9:18 AM EDT |
Me thinks M$ is in an identity crisis... Are they a software vendor, a hardware manufacturer, a solutions provider, an ISP, a Bank?!?! I don't think THEY really know... |
| KernelShepard May 04, 2011 10:33 AM EDT |
Why do people assume that Microsoft was behind Mono devs being laid off? Edit: I don't know that they weren't, but I see no evidence that they were, either. |
| dinotrac May 04, 2011 10:54 AM EDT |
@KS -- It makes no sense for Microsoft to hurt the mono project -- a project they have actually cooperated with (ahem, Moonlight). It helps Microsoft by giving .Net multi-platform cover. There ain't enough tin foil on the large-size roll to handle "Microsoft did it" on this one. |
| jdixon May 04, 2011 10:58 AM EDT |
> Why do people assume that Microsoft was behind Mono devs being laid off? No idea. Some people think Microsoft runs the world, I guess. There's no reason to assume Microsoft involvement in a decision which may have been made entirely by Attachmate. Now, Attachmate is a Windows centric company and as far as I can tell always has been. So it undoubtedly has close ties with Microsoft. But that's not enough to tie them to this decision. |
| KernelShepard May 04, 2011 11:02 AM EDT |
dino/jdixon: I'm glad I'm not the only one left wondering where this connection came from |
| tharik May 04, 2011 6:23 PM EDT |
If Microsoft wanted a multi-platform framework they could have put .NET under an Apache license. I am not sure of there purpose of helping create Moonlight. At least it kept a few developers working on something. |
| skelband May 04, 2011 6:58 PM EDT |
@dinotrac: I agree The only sense in which I think it might not be in Microsoft's best interest is that they would rather keep the .NET architecture within the Windows eco-system. Microsoft have often made big claims about their "interoperability" but only between Microsoft products of course. Mono offered the prospect of porting .Net applications away from that eco-system which is not the kind of thing Microsoft are a big of fan of, I am sure. Moonlight, I think, is a different issue. If Microsoft want to get into content delivery, which one of their alter-egos would suggest, then platform agnosticism is good for them. JaseP is right in this respect I think. They do seem a bit schizophrenic at the moment. On the one hand they still jealously fence off their Windows environment as best they can. On the other, they are reaching out to mobile platforms and other OS eco-systems in terms of content delivery. |
| dinotrac May 04, 2011 8:59 PM EDT |
@skelband -- Microsoft is faced with a changing world it cannot dominate. Doesn't much know how to deal with it, either. When you think of big names in technology these days, you think Apple, Google, Facebook. You don't think Microsoft. |
| hkwint May 05, 2011 10:24 AM EDT |
Quoting:ISP, a Bank?! Nearly, me thinks they're turning into an IP-bank, banking in on their assumed intellectual property. |
| JaseP May 05, 2011 12:42 PM EDT |
Quoting: Nearly, me thinks they're turning into an IP-bank, banking in on their assumed intellectual property. "Assumed," is a nice adjective... But I was referring to their large cash surplus. |
| KernelShepard May 05, 2011 6:18 PM EDT |
Stopped in at the Mono IRC channels today and they seemed pretty active for a bunch of laid-off developers. They also managed to release MonoTouch 4.0.2 today. Can anyone actually verify that they are really really jobless? Because something just doesn't add up. |
| tracyanne May 05, 2011 9:25 PM EDT |
KS apparently work on Mono has been moved to Germany, along with pretty much everything else associated with Novell's Linux offereings. I think there was or is a link on lxer somewhere about this. |
| KernelShepard May 06, 2011 8:20 AM EDT |
Thanks for the info, Tracy. |
| hkwint May 10, 2011 2:56 AM EDT |
JaseP: Apparently, you're right - as they're willing to use the surplus to buy Skype. |
| JaseP May 10, 2011 10:54 AM EDT |
M$ buying Skype?!?! Good thing I'm switching over to Google-Talk... |
| hkwint May 10, 2011 4:59 PM EDT |
Oh, they have just done so... Thinks can go quick sometimes. |
| TxtEdMacs May 10, 2011 6:44 PM EDT |
Quoting: [...] ... Thinks can go quick sometimes. Only Hans can make dreams an instant reality. And I thought I was the only open MS shill on this site. I demand a fee split. YBT |
| gus3 May 10, 2011 6:57 PM EDT |
Aha, now I get it! Hans is Russian. So da, thinks can go quick sometimes. And right now, thinks are goink wery, wery quickly. |
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