Reactions to this are funny.

Story: Why ads in Firefox are no big dealTotal Replies: 20
Author Content

Feb 15, 2014
3:15 PM EDT
In all the stories about this move by mozilla the comments are dominated by people saying they are going to switch to chrome. They are going to trade some adds on the launch page, that can be replaced by what ever site you want to be in the square, with a browser that tracks what sites you visit and sells it to the advertisers. Are they also aware that every google search they make is sold to advertisers?

Feb 15, 2014
4:28 PM EDT
Pretty funny, boomboomcars :) Somebody has to pay the bills. Currently Mozilla receives most of its funding from Google. If this broadens their revenue base that is a good thing. Or users could start paying.

hahahahaha yeah, I know.

Feb 15, 2014
4:36 PM EDT

Sorry, bad taste.

Feb 15, 2014
6:25 PM EDT
Actually, I still have to take a look at the iceweasel package and see if it would be usable with Slackware, as I'm fairly sure Debian will strip out those ads.

I've also looked into Chromium, but my computer seems to be having problems at the moment, and compiling it seems to lock up the machine. I need to run some memory and processor diagnostics later this weekend.

Testing completed. Cpuburn is blowing up after about 3 minutes. So my processor is overheating.The fans are fine, and I've cleaned out all the dust bunnies from the vents. But cpuburn is still blowing up. I'll have to try tearing it down and making sure the thermal paste is still OK. :( But that's a job for another time.

Feb 16, 2014
1:10 AM EDT
Someone will come up with a hack that will either block the ads or disable the feature. They always do.

Feb 16, 2014
10:26 AM EDT
> Someone will come up with a hack

From the sound of it, they're on the opening screen when you first install the browser. It should be a matter of minutes to remove them. Now, if Mozilla makes them difficult to remove or puts them back on a regular basis, then all the complaints are justified.

I think it's a stupid idea that won't work and will simply inconvenience the core base of users, but what do I know, The mere fact that they've decided to do it is a strong indication that it's time for me to look for another browser though.

Feb 16, 2014
12:32 PM EDT
jdixon, then how do you propose they generate money? I've never been comfortable with Google being their main funder.

Feb 16, 2014
12:46 PM EDT
tuxchick, good point. I think sometimes we confuse "Free" and "free". It's unfortunate that the English language does not have different words for these two very different ideas.

In German you can say "Frei" or "Kostenlos", two unmistakably different words.

In Spanish you can say "libre" or "gratis", again allowing for no misinterpretation.

Frei/libre/Free is the holy grail that we all cherish. Kostenlos/gratis/free is something that often comes as a side benefit.

Now to my point, there is nothing wrong with Free/Kostenlos/libre software also making an income. Actually this is a good thing in that it encourages expansion of the offering, and the longevity of the project.

Feb 16, 2014
7:09 PM EDT
> jdixon, then how do you propose they generate money?

TC, if I knew how to make money I wouldn't have to work for a living.

But how they make money is their concern. What the browser on my machine does is mine. When those two conflict, it's time to find a new browser.

Feb 16, 2014
7:31 PM EDT
Making money is easy. First you start with some special cotton-based paper...

Feb 16, 2014
9:50 PM EDT
Google pays the Mozilla Foundation something like $300 million/yr for being the default search engine in Firefox. We know that Google mines every byte of data that passed through their servers. We don't know everything they do with it, but it's made them hundreds of billions of dollars. How is putting a few ads on the default home page worse than that? It's easy as pie to change your default home page, as easy as using a different search engine.

Feb 16, 2014
9:57 PM EDT
The one that pays the piper calls the tune, and advertisers are more willing to pony up the cash than users. We're not the real customers of anything that is ad-supported, we're part of the product.

Feb 16, 2014
10:15 PM EDT
Firefox is open source so it should be easy to strip the advertisement code and rebuild the binaries from source. I bet patches will be available so there will be no need to look for the code ourselves.

Feb 16, 2014
10:48 PM EDT
TC, I've given up caring. Unless I encrypt everything I send (and even then, someone, somewere is going to be able to break it), my traffic is completely open to those that want to see it......

If Google or anybody wants to mine my transmissions, it's a waste of time as far as I am concerned simply because I still retain an ultimate power: I can choose or not choose to accept any offer that is made. The best moves I ever made were to deliberately and step by step, remove all the unwanted advert topics from Amazon other than a very special subset I do remain interested in - it cut their emails down by over 95%.

Feb 17, 2014
10:02 AM EDT
This is only on the "new tab" page. These ads don't appear when you open the browser. They appear when you make a new blank page. They only continue to appear until your browsing history replaces all the preset links on the "new tab" page with sites from your history. It doesn't seem like a really big deal. I may prefer to have blank boxes until my history populates them, but some would actually like there to be some preset choices.

Feb 17, 2014
5:51 PM EDT
> Making money is easy. First you start with some special cotton-based paper... Here in BC, you start off with a roll of plastic :D

Feb 17, 2014
6:44 PM EDT
I like Ridcully's tactic... and outlook on the situation.

Feb 18, 2014
4:52 AM EDT
Personally I have no issues with ad supported software as long as it isn't too in your face. Like Tuxchick said, they have to make money.

When you search in Google the first few results are adverts. Doesn't stop people using it.

Feb 18, 2014
9:57 AM EDT
How about a little routine in every FireFox browser that makes a "nice" process to generate Bitcoin?

Firefox could, literally, make them money. :^)

Feb 18, 2014
11:19 AM EDT
> When you search in Google the first few results are adverts. Doesn't stop people using it.

It stops some people, and those who do use it do so voluntarily. Firefox doesn't appear to be giving the user the option of turning it off.

Feb 18, 2014
5:59 PM EDT
It's as simple as adding:

to /etc/hosts.

Posting in this forum is limited to members of the group: [ForumMods, SITEADMINS, MEMBERS.]

Becoming a member of LXer is easy and free. Join Us!