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Story: Firefox 29 out now, gets design overhaulTotal Replies: 17
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Apr 30, 2014
6:50 AM EDT
Is there somewhere a button that allows me to put it back like it was yesterday, before I start using X-words. All tips welcome.

Apr 30, 2014
7:48 AM EDT
<shrug> Do your browsing on a live-CD (TAILS?) box from now on, with the older browser frozen in the ISO. It might get r00t3d but who cares when you just r3b00t afterwards anyway.

Sorry, best I can come up with.

Apr 30, 2014
7:54 AM EDT

a good idea.

And I am going to follow up on that.

Learning TAILS is something I had in mind anyway.

Downloading as we speak


Apr 30, 2014
8:46 AM EDT

Also, keep in mind that Exe has support for a re-spin. Get all your favorite TDE stuff together on the one box along with the other CLI etc tools you like, then rebuild the live-CD* your way. Burn a few spares while you're at it so you're not without a copy and have an extra to carry around for 'just visiting' situations (and to give away to folks who watch and then say "I want that!").

I'd be running Exe right now if my AMD mobo/APU combo played nice with its sound setup (but with Sparky TDE it did, so I'm running that).

* Or Live-USB using UnetBootin. Hey, it works.

Apr 30, 2014
9:10 AM EDT
> is there somewhere a button that allows me to put it back like it was yesterday.

Oldapps and Oldversion should have the older version. Just turn off updating. and

But seriously, take a look at Pale Moon instead. I've found it much more usable.

Apr 30, 2014
9:15 AM EDT
> But seriously, take a look at Pale Moon instead. I've found it much more usable.

Nice idea. Pity it's Windows-only.

Apr 30, 2014
10:03 AM EDT
> Pity it's Windows-only.

It's been ported.

Packages for it are a bit hard to find though. Try just running the installer from and see if it works.

Apr 30, 2014
10:28 AM EDT
Maybe I am odd. When was there any doubt?

In any case, other than missing the quit functionality via the menu, in most respects I like 29 better and I am getting used to finding things on the right. The menu first view as icon based leaves me cold, but the underlying selection list is larger and more to my tastes.

Some big changes, but for me for the better.


P.S. [edit] Forgot to mention some things work more reliably on 29 than 28 for me, e.g. right click seeing history of site navigation and selecting where I wish to go. Problematic for the former and prone to failure for the latter.

* And mostly serious this time.


Apr 30, 2014
11:01 AM EDT
@TxtEdMacs: how stable is it? One thing I've noted about FF post-3.5.6 is it's more crash-prone. (I also noted their determination to put the tab bar above the address bar, but that's a rant for another forum where appropriate language is tolerated.)

Apr 30, 2014
12:04 PM EDT
Spend about 3 minutes with the Getting Started section, and you can make it just like it was. Actually, even a little better. Just takes time and thought.

Apr 30, 2014
1:52 PM EDT

It's only my second day of use, hence, having no crashes yet is meaningless. Just noticed this version is smoother and some odd behaviour I saw in 28 seems to have been internal to FF. Various other tasks seem faster using Mint 16 than for Mint 15, both 64 bit versions.

I also like most of the UI changes in this version of FF. I am still getting used to the control placement and differing content of the menus.

The version number 3.5.6 is that for the kernel or FF? I just checked the kernel version I am running and it is only:


Either the kernel is well behind the latest or you are harking back to an ancient version of FF. If it is the latter, my memory differs on the overall stability, however, ... I was running routinely with more than 200 active tabs. That just might be a factor. Now if I use 20 - 30 tabs that is high for me. I have been lessening the load on FF and a trend towards less lockup and crashes has been downward. Another factor is hardware, which while not the most recent vintage I run an i7, main storage is a generation or two back Intel SSD and 12G of RAM. That does wonders on the performance side and those pesky things I saw on browser performance disappear.


[Mostly serious, uncharacteristically]

Apr 30, 2014
6:29 PM EDT
Just use Seamonkey, same browser engine, classic interface and still a Mozilla product, not some spin-off of dubious origin...

Apr 30, 2014
10:58 PM EDT
> ...not some spin-off of dubious origin.

Dubious origin? The code is freely available, just as that of Firefox is. The Linux version is a simple recompile by a third party.

Apr 30, 2014
11:29 PM EDT
jdixon wrote:
Quoting:Oldapps and Oldversion should have the older version. Just turn off updating. and

Wow. That brings back some memories. Not all of them good, either. ;)

May 01, 2014
1:20 AM EDT

May 01, 2014
3:05 AM EDT
For Jdixon or anyone who may know.......The sites given by jdixon were for Windows versions.....Does anyone know where Linux versions are kept. In particular, I want to get hold of Chrome versions 22-24 as they are the last versions that work on openSUSE 11.4........

May 01, 2014
7:05 AM EDT
> Wow. That brings back some memories. Not all of them good, either. ;)

"You're listening to 'Flashback'.". :)

> The sites given by jdixon were for Windows versions...

The url is for the Linux version. There are both 32 and 64 bit versions. As I said though, it doesn't seem to be packaged for the various distros. The Linux installer (which installs the binary to /opt) is at and seemed to work well for Ubuntu, though it didn't seem to properly set itself as the default browser. I haven't tried the installer under Slackware yet, I simply manually installed it in my home directory,

May 02, 2014
10:23 PM EDT
You could always delay the inevitable for a while by switching to an Extended Support Release of Firefox. The latest is 24.x, I believe.

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