The RPM Fusion Project
| From: | Hans de Goede <j.w.r.degoede-AT-hhs.nl> | |
| To: | Discuss a potential merger of some 3rd party add-on repos for Fedora <repo-merge-discussion-AT-fedoraunity.org>, Development discussions related to Fedora Core <fedora-devel-list-AT-redhat.co | |
| Subject: | Announcing rpmfusion | |
| Date: | Tue, 11 Sep 2007 08:38:19 +0200 | |
| Message-ID: | <46E637DB.6060102@hhs.nl> |
The Dribble, Freshrpms and Livna teams, already joined by some Fedora
contributors, are proud to announce the RPM Fusion project.
RPM Fusion aims to bring together many packagers from various 3rd party repos
and build a single add-on repository for Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux.
We don't have a repository ready for end users yet, but we are actively working
on merging the following ones:
* http://dribble.org.uk/
* http://freshrpms.net/
* http://rpm.livna.org/
We will have two distinct repositories: free and non-free. Free will contain
Open Source Software (as defined by the Fedora Packaging Guidelines) which
can't be included in Fedora -- for example because it might be patent
encumbered in the US. Non-free will contain everything else which is not free
software (as defined by the Fedora Licensing Guidelines), like software with
public available source-code that has "no commercial use" restrictions or the
graphics drivers from AMD and Nvidia.
Repositories and infrastructure will follow Fedora where possible. This means
using Fedora's packaging guidelines (except for legal), Fedora's review process
for new submissions, Fedora's VCS structure etc.
It will contain add-on packages and not replacements in relation to the base
package set. Whereby the base package set is defined as: RHEL/CentOS + EPEL or
Fedora (Fedora 7+).
It will contain kernel module packages in the main repo, even if Fedora will
drop them (which looks likely as of August 2007).
We aim to provide support for all 'current' versions of Fedora including devel,
for i386, ppc, ppc64 and x86_64.
We hope to attract new Fedora packagers and many other 3rd party repositories.
Please join our mailing list at:
http://lists.fedoraunity.org/mailman/listinfo/repo-merge-...
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Posted Sep 11, 2007 15:32 UTC (Tue) by mbottrell (guest, #43008) [Link]
Would be nice if they worked with RPMForge
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Posted Sep 11, 2007 17:47 UTC (Tue) by shalem (subscriber, #4062) [Link]
We did try to, also notice that the only Fedora supporting rpmforge member, freshrpms, is there, the other rpmforge members only support RHEL / CentOS.
(I don't know if they happen to build for Fedora too, but they do not _support_ it, and that is from there own mouths in a face to face meeting).
Regards,
Hans
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Posted Sep 11, 2007 16:06 UTC (Tue) by rdtennent (guest, #11327) [Link]
>Would be nice if they worked with RPMForge
and didn't work with Livna, which I've disabled because of all the problems
with clashing files.
Bob T.
The RPM Fusion Project
Posted Sep 11, 2007 18:13 UTC (Tue) by Ed_L. (guest, #24287) [Link]
>> and didn't work with Livna, which I've disabled because of all the problems with clashing files.Aye, but presumably Livna joined Fusion with the promise to play well with others.
I haven't had any trouble with livna ..
Posted Sep 12, 2007 1:48 UTC (Wed) by JoeBuck (subscriber, #2330) [Link]
But then, I only use livna and Fedora's standard packages, not a mix of every yum archive on the net.
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Posted Sep 11, 2007 16:59 UTC (Tue) by zdzichu (subscriber, #17118) [Link]
Great! Transparent cube with packages on sides!Oh wait, it isn't that Fusion.
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Posted Sep 11, 2007 17:18 UTC (Tue) by chuck97224 (guest, #40161) [Link]
>>We will have two distinct repositories: free and non-free....
Is it just me or did Hans get the definitions of free and non-free mixed up?
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Posted Sep 11, 2007 19:37 UTC (Tue) by rfunk (subscriber, #4054) [Link]
I don't think so. The Free side may have patent issues, but patent lawsare inconsistent between countries; the Free side should have no
*copyright* problems blocking the freedoms we all love. OTOH, the
Non-Free side includes software that's redistributable, but otherwise
excludes some of the Free Software freedoms in the copyright license.
(And copyright laws are fairly consistent between countries.)
The RPM Fusion Project
Posted Sep 11, 2007 19:42 UTC (Tue) by michich (subscriber, #17902) [Link]
It is just you. Software in the "free" section will be truly FreeSoftware in the reasonable parts of the world where software patents
don't exist.
Software in "non-free" will be proprietary. Hans described it correctly.
The RPM Fusion Project
Posted Sep 12, 2007 3:53 UTC (Wed) by drag (guest, #31333) [Link]
Yep, the differences between Free software, non-free software, and patent infringing free software is...
Free Software --- Software the author wants you to use with as little restrictions as possible
Non-Free -- software the author wants you to use with some-to-many restrictions, usually designed specificly to promote the author's financial wellbeing, but not always.
Patent Infringing Free Software --- Software the author wants you to use with as few restrictions as possible, but your own government doesn't want you to use at all.
Good luck for the RPM Fusion Project
Posted Sep 12, 2007 8:09 UTC (Wed) by gvy (guest, #11981) [Link]
Well, hope that Fedora users and developers will be able to sort these things out and enjoy non-stripped distro in non-stripped countries!
In the meanwhile, we're enjoying that for years here in Ukraine and Russia, with ALT Linux. :) Being a maintainer of some 150+ packages, I can only wish the best with such a merger, lowering effort dups and pain to find a suitable package is really worthy deed.