Debian votes to keep non-free
| From: | Debian Project Secretary <srivasta-AT-debian.org> | |
| To: | debian-devel-announce-AT-lists.debian.org, debian-vote-AT-lists.debian.org | |
| Subject: | Results for future handling of the non free section GR | |
| Date: | Sun, 21 Mar 2004 18:14:42 -0600 | |
| Cc: | dwn-AT-debian.org |
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, At this point, with 563 ballots resulting in 491 votes from 482 developers, "Choice 2: Re-affirm support for non-free" has carried the day. "Choice 1: Cease active support of non-free [3:1 majority needed]" failed to even win simple majority (more people preferred further discussion than option 1). The list of voters is available at: http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/gr_non_free_voters.txt And the tally sheet is available for review at: http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/gr_non_free_tally.txt manoj - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Starting results calculation at Mon Mar 22 00:03:07 2004 In the following table, tally[row x][col y] represents the votes that option x received over option y. Option 1 2 3 === === === Option 1 169 199 Option 2 303 304 Option 3 260 156 Looking at row 2, column 1, Choice 2: Re-affirm support for non-free received 303 votes over Choice 1: Cease active support of non-free [3:1 majority needed] Looking at row 1, column 2, Choice 1: Cease active support of non-free [3:1 majority needed] received 169 votes over Choice 2: Re-affirm support for non-free. Option 1 Reached quorum: 199 > 45.1995575199581 Option 2 Reached quorum: 304 > 45.1995575199581 Dropping Option 1 because of Majority. 0.765 (199/260) <= 3 Option 2 passes Majority. 1.949 (304/156) > 1 Option 2 defeats Option 1 by 134 Option 3 defeats Option 1 by 61 Option 2 defeats Option 3 by 148 The Schwartz Set contains: Option 2 "Choice 2: Re-affirm support for non-free" - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The winners are: Option 2 "Choice 2: Re-affirm support for non-free" - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - -- Death has been proven to be 99% fatal in laboratory rats. Debian Project Secretary <secretary@debian.org> http://vote.debian.org/ 1024R/C7261095 print CB D9 F4 12 68 07 E4 05 CC 2D 27 12 1D F5 E8 6E 1024D/BF24424C print 4966 F272 D093 B493 410B 924B 21BA DABB BF24 424C -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Processed by: Debian GNU/Linux -> Emacs -> Gnus -> Mailcrypt iD8DBQFAXi8qIbrau78kQkwRAuOsAJ0TrLuOFzENNpUj/ejt/tjZ5MeaPACfbry1 eB6glJhFzyL6SI2Gs6ck4hM= =PKL3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-announce-request@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmaster@lists.debian.org
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Debian votes to keep non-free
Posted Mar 22, 2004 7:08 UTC (Mon) by amacater (subscriber, #790) [Link]
This has come at the end of a very significant amount of discussion/flamewars on the mailing lists. Most of the folk involved won't want to do
this again within a year :) Somewhat surprisingly, it seems that all
three of the Debian project leader candidates voted against keeping non-free
[More details at http://vote.debian.org - where you can check which people
voted for which option].
There has also been discussion about setting up a separate entity
with separate servers - nonfree.org - which may or may not go ahead now.
The non-free software provided as a service by Debian does _not_ form
part of the Debian software distribution.
Debian votes to keep non-free
Posted Mar 22, 2004 9:32 UTC (Mon) by LintuxCx (guest, #14448) [Link]
Where do you see the votes from all individual developers? I thought Debian kept the votes private and just published the total results. And indeed I can't find my vote back on that page. Just a list of people who second a proposal voted about.
Debian votes to keep non-free
Posted Mar 22, 2004 10:03 UTC (Mon) by amacater (subscriber, #790) [Link]
See Manoj's email quoted above. Alternatively, go to the page, go downthe bar on the left hand side 'til you find the non-free resolution
and click on it. Part way down the page there is a dummy tally hyperlink - which, unsurprisingly, is now the real tally :)
HTH,
Andy
Debian votes to keep non-free
Posted Mar 22, 2004 10:05 UTC (Mon) by ballombe (subscriber, #9523) [Link]
The votes are kept secret only for the DPL elections.See Debian constitution 4.2.3:
Votes are taken by the Project Secretary. Votes, tallies, and results are not revealed
during the voting period; after the vote the Project Secretary lists all the votes cast.
The voting period is 2 weeks, but may be varied by up to 1 week by the Project
Leader.
And Debian constitution 5.2.5:
The next three weeks are the polling period during which Developers may cast their
votes. Votes in leadership elections are kept secret, even after the election is
finished.
The votes are at <http://master.debian.org/~srivasta/gr_non_free_tally.txt>
as mentionned in the article.
Debian votes to keep non-free
Posted Mar 22, 2004 10:30 UTC (Mon) by mbanck (guest, #9035) [Link]
There has also been discussion about setting up a separate entity with separate servers - nonfree.org - which may or may not go ahead now.This is undecided right now - the person who agreed to host the box and was having a good deal of the Debian archive infrastructure installed already was not amenable to keep on with the non-free.org effort should the resolution fail.
A probable outcome would be to not clone the current non-free part of Debian somewhere else but rather start a new service where current and future maintainers of non-free software could migrate/host their packages. If this proves successful, it could lead to the obsolence of non-free on debian.org in a couple of years, who knows?
I would have to check back with the people supporting non-free.org and also a new box and hosting would be needed most probably.
Michael