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| tuxchick2 Jul 03, 2006 3:12 PM EDT |
Revisiting the basics is always good, especially for all the flocks of noobs swarming to Linux. Speaking of, am I the only who sees an awful lot of "nooo don't make me type a command" posts on forums and user lists? Is someone going to door-to-door to new Linux users and telling them frightening command-line stories? |
| grouch Jul 03, 2006 6:20 PM EDT |
tuxchick2: Our old buddy BillG has spent many years trying to convince people that typing is only for word processing; clicking is for commanding your computer, er, I mean, your app. Deliberately avoiding the command line is as silly as a carpenter who won't touch a tool that doesn't plug in. Even Norm Abrams picks up a hammer and chisel occasionally. (For those outside the US, "Norm Abrams" refers to a carpenter/cabinet maker on tv who is known for using lots of power toys, er, tools). |
| helios Jul 04, 2006 4:20 PM EDT |
We have done extensive work with both senior citizens and jr high level kids and have found a good way to "sell" the command line. See, the command line is a "bonus" you can't even Find in windows. "Here, look at how fast I can install foo.rpm or slocate -i nickleback. Try THAT in windows". I then show them a bunch of the cool stuff you can do. Really, and this is so silly...if you change the background schema of the konsole, it makes a big difference. go figure. The surprising thing about it is that it has worked well. I am listing it as one of the three ideas that DNH in my life. (did no harm). And no...we WILL NOT discuss the garage roof Slip-n-slide I packaged in 77. That case has been closed for years. |
| tuxchick2 Jul 04, 2006 5:35 PM EDT |
Saved by the statute of limitations again, helios? :) |
| jimf Jul 04, 2006 6:10 PM EDT |
> I then show them a bunch of the cool stuff you can do. Really, and this is so silly...if you change the background schema of the konsole, it makes a big difference. go figure. I find nothing odd or silly about wanting a nice looking console. I suspect that there are sound psychological reasons behind a users aversion to a little black window or worse yet, a totally black screen. I've worked with command lines from DOS on and a plain (usually black or white) screen is not a comforting feature, even after all my years of experience.... Always nice to have a little color :). |
| grouch Jul 04, 2006 8:49 PM EDT |
Run a little head-to-head contest with an MS Windows user. Set up a directory full of jpg images and have them resize all the images to some web-page size, like a maximum of 800 for either vertical or horizontal size, while maintaining aspect ratio. As they start to click the menus to find PhotoShop or whatever... mogrify -geometry 800x800 ./*.jpg And announce you're done. |
| jimf Jul 04, 2006 9:40 PM EDT |
Heh... 'mogrify'.I hadn't looked at that one in a while. Resize and a lot of other parameters. Very clever grouch. |
| tuxchick2 Jul 04, 2006 10:08 PM EDT |
You can really show off with Dave Madison's Album, which incorporates Image Magick. You can do the resizing and create a photo gallery with thumbnails all with one command. http://marginalhacks.com/Hacks/album/ |
| grouch Jul 05, 2006 2:30 AM EDT |
Thanks for the link, tuxchick2. Maybe we need a bash script tips thread. A very short one that I find myself using pretty frequently is simply: for n in * ; do if [ -d $n ]; then du -hs $n ; fi ; done I bet the bash reference manual is sufficient to scare the beejeezus out of some newbies. It's like dropping a Neanderthal into a modern car; he will think he has to know all about every button, gauge, lever and light before he can drive. It's nice to have climate controls for every seat, but they're not necessary to make the car do something useful. http://www.gnu.org/software/bash/manual/bash.html |
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