XGL/Compiz and free driver
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| cheshire137 Oct 17, 2006 6:32 AM EDT |
Does anyone know if XGL/Compiz still works when using the free NVIDIA driver? |
| herzeleid Oct 17, 2006 7:11 AM EDT |
If you mean, will the compiz/xgl effects continue working if, instead of updating your nvidia driver, you nuke it and downgrade to the "nv" skeleton driver included in the xorg distribution, the answer is no. |
| Sander_Marechal Oct 17, 2006 8:54 AM EDT |
Nope. You want an Intel chip for that. |
| dcparris Oct 17, 2006 10:56 AM EDT |
I'm curious, because I really haven't paid close attention to the Intel chip. Can I buy a graphics card with the Intel chip, or is that integrated into the mobo? I assume it's integrated, based on what I've seen so far. If it's a dumb question, just realize that I am dumb about this. I used to keep up with hardware more than I do now. |
| herzeleid Oct 17, 2006 11:24 AM EDT |
Quoting: dcparris: Can I buy a graphics card with the Intel chip, or is that integrated into the mobo?I'd like to know too - from all the looking around I've done, the only recent intel graphics chips I've found are embedded in the motherboards. I'd like to see intel re-enter the graphics card market, as that would provide a viable choice for a modern video card with FOSS drivers. |
| dcparris Oct 17, 2006 11:34 AM EDT |
I think you just answered my question. It would be nice to have a separate card to buy. |
| jdixon Oct 17, 2006 1:38 PM EDT |
> Can I buy a graphics card with the Intel chip, or is that integrated into the mobo? The last chipset which Intel offered as a discrete video card was the i740. It's performance was adequate for the day, but it was crippled by poor to non-existant drivers. AFIAK, everything since then has been motherboard only. |
| Sander_Marechal Oct 17, 2006 2:05 PM EDT |
Quoting:It would be nice to have a separate card to buy. Where's the market? Aside from us FLOSSies who want to replace their current cards with cards that have Free drivers I don't know why anyone would buy such a card. Older ATI's and NVidia's go for as low as $40 a piece and they beat Intel GPU's by a mile. On-board video an possibly future on-CPU video looks like the only viable place unless Intel starts closing the performance gap. One think I do wonder about: Could a FLOSS-friendly entity simply buy large stacks of Intel GPU's and put them on a separate board for us at a decent price, or does the design make that impossible? |
| dcparris Oct 17, 2006 8:23 PM EDT |
I just don't care for having everything integrated. If you need to replace your sound, video or whatever card, then you pretty much wind up replacing the whole mobo. I used to cringe over that. In fact, I think I still do. I suppose that in a laptop, integrated circuitry makes a little more sense, since you're not quite as apt to run out and replace your graphics card on those. But in a workstation I want "interminglable" components. Since I just got soaked financially, I'll have to add an Intel mobo to my Christmas wishlist. |
| jimf Oct 17, 2006 8:58 PM EDT |
> I just don't care for having everything integrated. I definitely 2nd that. |
| tuxchick2 Oct 17, 2006 9:08 PM EDT |
Since the onboard chips are so small, I'm wondering why they can't made removeable and upgradeable. Instead of the only other option being a PCI or AGP card. |
| jimf Oct 17, 2006 10:21 PM EDT |
> I'm wondering why they can't made removeable and upgradeable. Can we say 'Profit'... |
| 1c3d0g Oct 18, 2006 7:16 AM EDT |
No, it has to do with the motherboard layers...current graphics cards use a 10-12 layer PCB (at least), a desktop motherboard usually has only 4 layers. Don't get me wrong, it *can* be done, but the price of the thing would be outrageous. Just like a 100 MPG car, it can be made easily, but again nobody would be able to afford it. :-( |
| jimf Oct 18, 2006 9:11 AM EDT |
> No, it has to do with the motherboard layers... And that's not about profit? The point for the OEM is to sell a bunch and maximize their profits. If it's too expensive initially, as you say, few will buy it. Better to put a bunch of less expensive boards on the market. |
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