Active X
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| maggrand Apr 18, 2007 2:00 AM EDT |
Everyone in here mabey remembers Active X. You could embed small programs in it. It did fail big. The same seems to be happen here. No one wants this Silverlight. Flash is good enought and is already working for most part. And is it only going to show flashy commercial then everyone would be really happy that it is already filtered away. So no loss. |
| jimf Apr 18, 2007 6:38 AM EDT |
I have a feeling that macromedia won't be happy with this either. I'm pretty sure that they'll be on our side in the sense of 'the enemy of my enemy....' |
| bigg Apr 18, 2007 6:51 AM EDT |
> I'm pretty sure that they'll be on our side in the sense of 'the enemy of my enemy....' I doubt it. Adobe is more anti-Linux than Microsoft. At least Microsoft has a reason to not develop products for Linux. They made their own bed by not embracing Linux. Microsoft will laugh all the way to the bank. Larry Ellison is not the nicest guy in the world, but he did realize that embracing Linux is better than tying yourself to a platform controlled by your biggest rival, a battle you are guaranteed not to win. > No one wants this Silverlight. You underestimate the stupidity of executives of large corporations. Citibank recently changed their website so that it can only be accessed with Windows. Microsoft should have little difficulty. |
| jimf Apr 18, 2007 7:50 AM EDT |
> I doubt it. Adobe is more anti-Linux than Microsoft. But, that was before this announcement that puts MS in direct competition with Adobe. I suspect attitudes will change rapidly. Also, remember that, no matter how reluctantly, Adobe does put out a flash plug-in for Linux. It's likely that Adobe will now be fighting for every inch of the market. MS used to be very supportive of their secondary program vendors, but in the past couple of years we see them dumping more and more. A classic case of the mother eating its young when times get rough. |
| NoDough Apr 18, 2007 7:54 AM EDT |
I went to one of the kickoff meetings for Vista. Microsoft is making no secret of the fact that they are competing with Adobe for the PDF space as well. They have their own "neutral" format. I can't remember what it is called. |
| bigg Apr 18, 2007 8:20 AM EDT |
I've read that Microsoft has plans to put out strong competitors to all of Adobe's products. In particular, they want a share of the Photoshop money (I don't work in that area, so I forget the name of their product). If there was a Photoshop for Linux, Adobe would obviously have no concerns, as any Linux customer moving to Microsoft's offerings would have to change OS. |
| Aladdin_Sane Apr 18, 2007 3:09 PM EDT |
>They have their own "neutral" format. I can't remember what it is called. I don't remember either. Let's just call it ActivePDF? >I don't work in that area, so I forget the name of their product Paint |
| Sander_Marechal Apr 18, 2007 4:19 PM EDT |
It's XPS a.k.a. XML Paper Specification. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_Paper_Specification |
| techiem2 Apr 18, 2007 4:34 PM EDT |
Oh yeah. I ran into that evil the other day at work. If you open a word doc in IE (like that's attached to your webmail) that has a form in it and you have .net 3 (I believe that's what does it), it opens the file in IE and then saves it as XPS...and ONLY XPS. And Word won't open XPS..... (I believe I saw mention of an XPS viewer, but didn't go looking for it) |
| bigg Apr 18, 2007 4:55 PM EDT |
> Paint IIRC, they have another program besides Paint. |
| tuxchick Apr 18, 2007 5:42 PM EDT |
Wouldn't it be cool if Adobe and Microsoft killed each other. Adobe has been irremoveably on my hate list ever since they had Dmitri Sklyarov jailed. |
| jimf Apr 18, 2007 6:15 PM EDT |
> Wouldn't it be cool if Adobe and Microsoft killed each other. Just as long as they knock off AutoCad in the process ;-) |
| bigg May 01, 2007 8:50 AM EDT |
I thought the following story linked from Digg was interesting. It shows that Adobe's leadership is even dumber than I thought. They just don't get Linux. I can only shake my head: http://blogs.business2.com/utilitybelt/2007/04/bad_blood_bet... In particular > It’s at the point where Chizen doesn’t like buying Microsoft software at all. “I hate writing the check to Microsoft,” Chizen said bluntly. “I would love to get off Microsoft Office.” In context, though, Chizen seemed to be resigned to the fact that Microsoft Office is still a necessary tool for business productivity. Chizen did say, in passing, that perhaps Adobe could come up with its own Office-like solution, sometime in the future but he didn’t seem too serious about it. |
| tuxchick May 01, 2007 9:02 AM EDT |
gee bigg, wouldn't it be awesome if there were a ready-made pool of great software applications that could be improved and distributed by anyone, this great big pool of shared code that harnessed the talents of programmers all over the planet. Wouldn't it be wonderful if there were other computing platforms besides windows, and whole new millions of customers to attract.
Then Adobe could be a part of this wonderful mythical community, contributing and benefiting, and have an escape hatch to get out from under Redmond's thumb. I know, it's a silly, impractical dream, but I thought I'd just daydream a little for the fun of it. |
| jsusanka May 01, 2007 9:47 AM EDT |
"Everyone in here mabey remembers Active X. You could embed small programs in it. It did fail big. " not sure it did fail - maybe on the internet but my ibm blade servers have a web interface and they use it big time on the virtual drive when you have to boot off an iso image to do an upgrade and my work has it littered all over the place on the intranet on crap pages that could of been done without active x. which sucks big time. |
| jdixon May 01, 2007 9:51 AM EDT |
> I know, it's a silly, impractical dream, but I thought I'd just daydream a little for the fun of it. That tuxchick, always an impractical idealist. :) |
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