Well, burp my Tupperware™ [Dell]
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| Aladdin_Sane May 23, 2007 2:48 PM EDT |
Tomorrow, Thursday, 2007-05-24 ISO, Dell, Inc. unleashes Ubuntu GNU/Linux systems on an unsuspecting public in large parts of North America. Please have fireworks prepared. For those requiring anal accuracy, 12 midnight on that date is CDT-5 for UTC'ers. Never forget. Expect Dell, Inc. to be late by at least OOB (Open Of Business) Thursday. This expectation is based on past experience only. Then the floodgates open or trickle, it's up to you. Quoting:"Excitement so thick - you could cut it with a knife Technology - high, on the leading edge of life" --Rush, lyrics by Peart, "Countdown", Signals, ℗© 1982, Core Music Publishing (ASCAP) Now we learn the cost of Freedom. |
| Bob_Robertson May 23, 2007 4:29 PM EDT |
Well, I'm stuck with the HP that I bought for my mom, so I won't be buying a Dell any time soon Linux or no. But I will be checking out their offerings, just in case they have a deal I no can-a refuse. |
| cyber_rigger May 24, 2007 7:58 AM EDT |
>Expect Dell, Inc. to be late 4:00 PM, today, May 24 07 (Texas time) http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/070524/20070523006383.html?.v=1 Dell's also planning to sell at Wal-Mart. The obvious question is "Dell Ubuntu machines at Wal-Mart?". |
| Aladdin_Sane May 24, 2007 10:15 AM EDT |
cyber_rigger: Thanks for the correction. From what I scanned on Direct2Dell, no Ubuntu at Wal-Mart (yet). I'm only tracking the base system, generally the other models should follow that one or not. For both tests, base system model is 'Dimension E52xy' where (x=0 or 1) and (y=(null) or n). Ubuntu test: Model is E520n, with Intel and Ubuntu. Wal-Mart test: Model is E521, with AMD and Vista Low-End. Standard model: Model is E520, with Intel and Vista Low-End. Someone else can draw the matrix for us if desired: 3 models, 2 CPU's, 2 OS's. I'm aware that it is important to be explicit about which model exactly one is speaking of, because that will determine the subset of peripherals, features, and support available to it. |
| Aladdin_Sane May 24, 2007 12:38 PM EDT |
See http://www.dell.com/open for the systems for sale. http://www.dell.com/open Dell Open for details. |
| Aladdin_Sane May 24, 2007 12:52 PM EDT |
"And More" And I quote Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions: "They're here! Today we're unveiling our three consumer systems -- the XPS 410n and Dimension E520n desktops and the Inspiron E1505n notebook -- with the Ubuntu 7.04 Linux distribution factory installed. Available today in the U.S., the systems target the Linux enthusiast community and are a direct result of your feedback on IdeaStorm[1]. It's true... you will be able to customize and purchase Dell's Ubuntu systems at http://www.dell.com/open. Just as you asked, the base price for each system is competitively priced and fully configured. Hardware support is available through normal Dell support channels, along with the option of selecting Ubuntu-specific support through Canonical, and a variety of software support options are available. http://www.dell.com/open has all the details about the configurations and the support options. And check out today's post on Direct2Dell[2] to watch a vlog from Dell's Linux Engineering team sharing their perspectives on today's announcement. Be sure to stop by and tell us what you think on Direct2Dell[3]." [1] http://www.ideastorm.com [2] http://direct2dell.com/one2one/archive/2007/05/24/15994.aspx [3] http://www.direct2dell.com -- Matt Domsch Software Architect Dell Linux Solutions linux.dell.com & http://www.dell.com/linux Linux on Dell mailing lists @ http://lists.us.dell.com _______________________________________________ Linux-announce mailing list Linux-announce@dell.com http://lists.us.dell.com/mailman/listinfo/linux-announce Please read the FAQ at http://lists.us.dell.com/faq or search the list archives at http://lists.us.dell.com/htdig/ Hey, he forgot http://domsch.com for his personal bio... |
| number6x May 24, 2007 12:57 PM EDT |
I just configured one at the site Aladdin_Sane linked to. Pretty competitive for a 15.4" notebook. If they had a 14.1" option, I'd be interested. I hope Dell sells many of them and millions of more Linux users join the community. |
| Aladdin_Sane May 24, 2007 2:24 PM EDT |
UPDATE: Enter dell.com, choose Desktops/Home and Home Office. No link to Ubuntu PC's there yet. Complain loudly. |
| Bob_Robertson May 24, 2007 4:43 PM EDT |
Yep, I looked over the three they are offering. And the laptop is _exactly_ what I should have gotten instead of the HP. This HP uses a _DELL_ Broadcom card which has to have the ndiswarper. What does Dell use? The Intel 3945, which has excellent Linux support. Argh! |
| dcparris May 24, 2007 5:39 PM EDT |
Ouch! Don't you just love it when a plan comes together? |
| rijelkentaurus May 24, 2007 7:13 PM EDT |
Quoting: Yep, I looked over the three they are offering. And the laptop is _exactly_ what I should have gotten instead of the HP. If it makes you feel better, the quality on Dell laptops is not nearly as high as on HPs, in my professional experience. They are not made as durably, nor as tight-feeling, nor as responsive "to the touch" (just a personal impression of how they "feel" under your hands). You're better off just to have bought the HP and then to buy another wireless card. Workstations are a different story, however, and I am probably going to buy one from Dell. I want a beefy machine to run some VMs without killing the performance, and I want to support Dell's foray into PenguinLand. Might as well kill two birds with one stone. |
| Bob_Robertson May 24, 2007 7:20 PM EDT |
"You're better off just to have bought the HP and then to buy another wireless card." That was what I intended to do when I bought the HP, but HP decided to sabotage the ROM and make it choke on any other wireless card. I tried installing the Intel 3945 card, and it just didn't show up. Nothing. Missing. As if it didn't exist. I contacted HP, and they confirmed that no other card will work, deliberately. But it's a really nice machine, I agree. It seems quite nice, and if it weren't for this card I'd be completely satisfied. Unfortunately, since I installed the NDISwrapper, it has had random lock-ups. I've got to try something else and see what happens, otherwise I may have to give up and buy a USB wireless adapter and just disable the internal card alltogether. damn, I'm ranting. This was supposed to be about Dell. Seriously, if this Dell machine had been available when I was going to buy a Laptop two weeks ago, I would have gotten it. I guess it was just my timing which sucks. Dude, I could'a bought a Dell. |
| Sander_Marechal May 24, 2007 10:33 PM EDT |
I would have returned the HP, holding HP's e-mail that they sabotaged the ROM in hand. |
| Bob_Robertson May 24, 2007 11:05 PM EDT |
Yes, I tried. The guy I bought it from has decided to do a "all sales final 'cause I can't return it to where I got it. Too bad." |
| rijelkentaurus May 25, 2007 2:43 AM EDT |
Quoting: I contacted HP, and they confirmed that no other card will work, deliberately. I once saw an HP whose hard drive had a proprietary interface, something they had manufactured specifically for them. That way you were stuck with purchasing a new one from them. I guess that means (along with the card thing) that HP sucks. Too bad, the laptops are nice. |
| Aladdin_Sane May 25, 2007 5:18 AM EDT |
>>I once saw an HP whose hard drive had a proprietary interface, something they had manufactured specifically for them. Me too. Actually, there has been way too much of this in the past, and OEM's are very unapologetic about it. I have an IBM PS/2 30-286 with a 44 pin IDE cable interface, and no power connector. It remains at 20 MB (compressed to 40 under DR DOS 6.0) to this day. Overall, evil hardware proprietary interfaces in my life in order or substantial hassle have been: 1. IBM 2. Compaq 3. HP 4. Dell 5. Gateway Since I build my own systems and can't stand portables (indeed they're far worse than desktops for proprietariness which is one reason I can't stand them) I rarely worry about the issue myself personally. If $DEITY meant computers to be portable she'd have given them wings. |
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