Nothing useful here it's Sam Varghese
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| tracyanne May 07, 2008 7:52 PM EDT |
nt |
| flufferbeer May 07, 2008 8:31 PM EDT |
then 2k, xp? Cannot say that I've had much problems with Sam Varghese's insights. Now Matt Asay and Mary Jo Foley OTOH, are a different story..... hardcore M$ shills, speaking of Win nt, 2k and xp. |
| Steven_Rosenber May 07, 2008 9:36 PM EDT |
Matt Asay has a certain complexity that I've yet to completely figure out ... |
| thenixedreport May 07, 2008 11:17 PM EDT |
The problem with Sam lately is mainly the OLPC project. He seems to have something against it for some reason, and I am having trouble understanding it all. |
| tracyanne May 08, 2008 12:25 AM EDT |
Quoting:and I am having trouble understanding it all. That I can't fathom either. |
| number6x May 08, 2008 2:59 AM EDT |
Negroponte used to be at the UN. Maybe Sam is a closet John Bircher or something. :) |
| thenixedreport May 08, 2008 8:25 AM EDT |
Quoting:Negroponte used to be at the UN. Maybe Sam is a closet John Bircher or something. That can't be it... |
| dinotrac May 08, 2008 9:28 AM EDT |
With all due respect, one need not be a Bircher to think poorly of the UN these days. The food for oil scandal should be a hint... |
| jdixon May 08, 2008 9:38 AM EDT |
> ...and Mary Jo Foley OTOH, are a different story..... hardcore M$ shills, and David Coursey. Hopefully I spelled his name correctly. |
| number6x May 08, 2008 9:47 AM EDT |
You are so right _dino... When I first heard of the food for oil scandal I felt troubled and disappointed. I did put the smiley there to note my comment as a joke Nowdays I wish Washington DC's waste, corruption and dysfunction could be lowered to the level of the UN's The UN almost seems to work compared to my own government. I keep voting the bums out of office, but there seem to be an endless supply of bums waiting in the wings. _dino, I live in Cook County. I cannot believe that my fellow citizens voted for our County president and that my fellow Illinoisans voted for our Governor. If the voters keep choosing the bottom of the barrel, I don't really know of a solution. |
| dinotrac May 08, 2008 10:13 AM EDT |
>dino, I live in Cook County. My sympathies in a big way. Death by Toddliness. Yecch. |
| tuxchick May 08, 2008 10:31 AM EDT |
The problem is we exported all of our democracy, so there's none left at home. come and get me, TOS coppers! |
| dinotrac May 08, 2008 11:18 AM EDT |
TC -- ;0) PS - I don't think it's a TOS violation unless the loss of democracy is God's fault. |
| number6x May 08, 2008 11:39 AM EDT |
Did we export it or did we outsource it? |
| jdixon May 08, 2008 12:48 PM EDT |
> The UN almost seems to work compared to my own government. You see more of your own government than you do the UN, number6x. If you could see them side by side, I'm afraid the UN would come out the worse, though probably not by a significant degree. |
| dinotrac May 08, 2008 1:19 PM EDT |
jdixon - I suspect that the UN would come out worse, but probably less annoyingly so. Local government is responsible for lots of the things that make our everyday life go round: road repair, trash pickup, schools, law enforcement, etc. The UN does some useful things, too, but is burdened with the yoke of international diplomacy -- ie, everybody's got a different national agenda -- and large sums of money made available -- and no accountability. At least your local government is run by people who have to stand for election. |
| thenixedreport May 09, 2008 12:16 AM EDT |
Quoting:The problem is we exported all of our democracy, so there's none left at home. *sigh* Forgive me for being annoying... However, I need to point out that we are not a democracy (or rather, are not supposed to be). We are (supposed to be) a Constitutional Republic. |
| helios May 09, 2008 2:40 AM EDT |
a Constitutional Republic: for which it stands: one Nation under God, indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for all. Anyone taken this apart yet to see where it got broken? |
| tracyanne May 09, 2008 3:00 AM EDT |
It's broken where if manages to exclude all of those people who are atheists the following is the original pledge I pledge allegiance to my Flag, and to the Republic for which it stands: one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for all. Much more inclusive, as it also, by leaving out any mention of God at all, manages to include those who worship many Gods, or none at all. |
| dinotrac May 09, 2008 4:37 AM EDT |
tracyanne - You must be confusing us with some other nation. No atheists are excluded here. It's the law. |
| tracyanne May 09, 2008 4:56 AM EDT |
and yet the current pledge includes only those who believe there is a God. No Atheist can honestly take that pledge, as it requires that one believe there is a God. Atheists don't belive there are such things, so they cannot believe that any nation is a Nation under God, they are excluded because the pledge assumes that anyone taking the pledge believes a Nation can be a Nation under the very thing an Atheist does not belive exists. That is why the original pledge is more inclusive. So while it is true, to my knowledge that the US does not exclude Atheists, the current pledge by it nature is broken, as it does. |
| rijelkentaurus May 09, 2008 6:07 AM EDT |
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| tuxchick May 09, 2008 6:34 AM EDT |
The "under God" bit was added in the '50s. The original pledge didn't include it. Our tax dollars and glorious elected representatives at work:
http://www.slate.com/?id=2067499 thenixedreport, you are being annoying :). If you haven't heard the horrid phrase "exporting democracy" at least a million times in the past few years as an excuse for all manner of abuses, you haven't been paying attention. |
| number6x May 09, 2008 7:18 AM EDT |
TC... That was added to keep those dern Godless communists from steeling our precious bodily fluids! Now we borrow money from the communists to keep our government afloat! So maybe we should add a new line to the pledge to thank God for the communists! |
| Steven_Rosenber May 09, 2008 11:13 AM EDT |
I don't know how this got around to God ... but back to Mary Jo Foley. She's gotta be in bed with MS if only because that's what she's covering. But I find her to be very fair and critical enough about the way MS does business. You can't expect her to be flying any sort of FOSS flag while covering the world's largest-by-far proprietary software company. |
| number6x May 09, 2008 11:45 AM EDT |
I think of Mary Jo as a 'Microsoft Insider'. She has an inside track and she won't print anything nasty about MS to compromise that. But she's not quite a shill either. Andy Inkhato used to be like that for Apple. I think the Performa line and a few other disasters at big red knocked some sense in him and he lets himself say bad things about Apple nowadays. Maybe Vista will wake Mary Jo up from MS fairy tale land. |
| jdixon May 09, 2008 1:05 PM EDT |
> So while it is true, to my knowledge that the US does not exclude Atheists, the current pledge by it nature is broken, as it does. Except, of course, that no one is required to give the pledge any more. I'm a lot more irritated by "indivisible" myself. The usual definition of a union includes the idea that it's voluntary. But that's a battle which was lost a long time ago. |
| tracyanne May 09, 2008 2:21 PM EDT |
Quoting:Except, of course, that no one is required to give the pledge any more. That's actually not the point, the Question Helios asked is where was it broken. Quoting:Anyone taken this apart yet to see where it got broken? I answered that question. |
| rijelkentaurus May 09, 2008 7:00 PM EDT |
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| dinotrac May 10, 2008 6:03 AM EDT |
rijel -- It looks like Nietzche had a better understanding of religion's place in the human fabric than most. I keep hearing about religion causing wars and all kind of nastiness. The comment on the power of money transcending religion could as easily be expanded to the power of land, the power of , um, power, etc. People have an uncanny power to corrupt anything for their purposes. |
| tracyanne May 10, 2008 3:01 PM EDT |
Quoting:So the great atheist and the son of God agree on something...if only people could see it more clearly. I'd like to correct correct the unsupportable assumptions contained in this statement, but that would get us even further of subject. |
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