I Don't Like It
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| Author | Content |
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| Fettoosh Jun 01, 2012 10:19 AM EDT |
I don't have or run Windows on any of my machines at home. For me, this is a whole lot of trouble for nothing. I am satisfied with the current boot loaders and I don't need this secure boot stuff period. I am sure many others feel the same way, are we going to have a choice to be free from this "Secure Boat Anchor " stuff? I believe working with PC vendors to supply "No Boat Anchor" machine is a better route to take than working around all the problems MS is imposing on everyone. |
| BernardSwiss Jun 01, 2012 10:30 AM EDT |
"Secure Boat Anchor" That's a good one, Fettoosh! |
| Fettoosh Jun 01, 2012 10:53 AM EDT |
Quoting:While Microsoft have modified their original position and all x86 Windows machines will be required to have a firmware option to disable this or to permit users to enrol their own keys, it's not really an option to force all our users to play with hard to find firmware settings before they can run Fedora. I hope this is going to be true and respected by all OEMs. |
| Fettoosh Jun 01, 2012 10:56 AM EDT |
Quoting:That's a good one, Fettoosh! Thanks Bernard, that is exactly how it feels having it on. |
| JaseP Jun 01, 2012 11:11 AM EDT |
Ugh,... So M$ gets what it wants,... keys to the Castle?!?! Yuk,... .just,... .Yuk. |
| Bob_Robertson Jun 01, 2012 11:39 AM EDT |
I wonder how the whitebox sellers of systems with no OS will deal with it. |
| Fettoosh Jun 01, 2012 12:17 PM EDT |
Quoting:I wonder how the whitebox sellers of systems with no OS will deal with it. Since they are already defying MS by selling No OS systems, I am sure it will be just as easy to defy it by totally disabling UEFI. I am surprised how quickly Fedora jumped to find a workaround, couldn't they have waited a little to see how customers are going to respond to this ploy? I am expecting that people who have legacy application are not going to be happy when these applications aren't going to run on Win 8 unless they get/purchase keys. A small company I wrote specialized software for, which runs on Linux buys about 20 such units a year and don't need such baloney. I am sure the "No-OS" market is getting bigger, especially for Mini-formfactor desktops (8" x 5" x 1"). |
| mbaehrlxer Jun 01, 2012 12:17 PM EDT |
i thought secure boot is something like this greetings, eMBee. |
| kennethh Jun 01, 2012 12:19 PM EDT |
Over 3 pages of comments that clearly do not support this path. One person pointed this out: http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/secure-boot-vs-restricted-boot/... You can sign it if you like. My comment: "I simply will not purchase any hardware that has this on it. Time to start supporting the crazy architectures & odd-named hardware manufacturer's. I'm quite certain that all hardware manufacturer's will not jump on board for this. I'd rather see a kickstarter fund to where limited hardware can be produced and supported for the Gnu+Linux sphere rather then to keep going along with the flow of the likes of redmond & intel." comment link |
| tuxchick Jun 01, 2012 8:00 PM EDT |
So...let's see some links to hardware that does not have this. Talk is cheap and it's easy to point fingers at Fedora. Ahem, Windows and gutless OEMs are the culprits. Matt Garrett was the first to sound the alarm and has speaking about this for months. Fedora is trying, which is more than you can say for the complainers. That FSF page has been up for months, and is about as effective as any other FSF campaign. Secure Boat Anchor. Yeah :) |
| tuxchick Jun 01, 2012 8:32 PM EDT |
Quoting: i thought secure boot is something like this Oh boy, do I feel foolish! I was thinking of bootloaders! |
| Fettoosh Jun 01, 2012 9:01 PM EDT |
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| kennethh Jun 01, 2012 9:53 PM EDT |
tuxchick There are plenty of hardware vendors available. If you have not been following lxer.com or linuxfordevices (now closed) then I don't know what to tell you other then to get a feed reader... And don't scoff or laugh because the hardware does not fit the mold of 150TB HD, 50 gazillion GB of memory, 5 graphics cards and whatever else people think they need now a' days... It will be a personal choice that I won't miss sleep over and it seems others will follow suit as well. |
| tuxchick Jun 01, 2012 11:24 PM EDT |
Linkies talk, kennethh, handwaving walks. Or something like that :) |
| Fettoosh Jun 02, 2012 5:57 PM EDT |
@TC, How about the link I posted above? Mini-form factor desktops (8" x 5" x 1") I recently bought two of those for myself and the company I developed specialized software for so far bought 10 units. More on the way. They all run Kubuntu 12.04. Clonezilla is just wonderful. This little company is a Windows XP shop and on the way to switch to Linux. |
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