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Open Source could use a face lift.

Posted by salparadise on · 12 comments
Linuxworld.com.au; By Neil McAllister
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Recently a reader took offense at a comment I made when I suggested that a well-defended trademark could help win Linux "a seat at the grown-ups' table." "What makes a commercial product inherently more 'grown-up' than its open source counterpart?" the reader asked.

The answer, of course, is nothing. It isn't hard to come up with examples of industry-leading software born of the open source world -- for example, you could argue that there isn't a Web server in existence that's more mature than Apache.

Still, open source in general has an image problem among business customers, and it's not hard to see why. To give one example, even --InfoWorld's --own gossip hound Robert X. Cringely took notice of the indignant harangue Eric S. Raymond leveled at a hapless recruiter who offered him a job interview at Microsoft.

Raymond remains one of the foremost names associated with the open source movement, despite the fact that he's becoming better known for this kind of egotistical rant than for the cogent reasoning of his landmark essay, "The Cathedral and the Bazaar." He does it so often that there's now even an online comic strip devoted to the subject.

Like it or not, this is the public face of open source. No matter how warmly vendors such as IBM or Novell might embrace Linux, their marketing departments must still contend with the fact that, in the eyes of many customers, the movement as a whole is inseparable from the tirades of Eric S. Raymond, the radical politics of Richard M. Stallman, or that great cafeteria food fight of popular opinion known as Slashdot.

That's what I meant by my reference to the grown-ups' table. That table isn't hard to spot: It's the one where nobody's throwing rolls.

What makes a software project "grown-up," in short, is the same thing that makes a person grown-up. A lot of it boils down to priorities. When you're young, you have the luxury of being free to engage in very idealistic or radicalized thinking. As you mature, however, other concerns take precedence.

You must start paying off those student loans, for starters. You begin a career. You might pick up a car. A mortgage. Insurance payments. A family whose safety and well-being are your responsibility.

The care and feeding of an enterprise is no different, save that the stakes are even higher and the issues play themselves out on a far grander stage. In a business setting, there is simply much more to consider when it comes to IT purchasing decisions than which software package someone else thinks is the most politically correct.

"Microsoft is evil"? That's a college kid's argument. It does nothing to further the case of Linux and open source in the business world.

Instead, new faces are needed -- articulate spokespeople who can explain how open source can address the myriad needs of the enterprise. Moreover, they must actively combat the perception that the open source movement is nothing more than a loose coalition of hobbyists, college students, and zealots such as Eric S. Raymond.

Bruce Perens is good at that. JBoss's Marc Fleury talks about open source in the same language used by proprietary software vendors. And it's hard to argue with the unbridled enthusiasm Novell's Miguel de Icaza and Nat Friedman have for quality software. But we need more like them.

IT decision-makers want to be reassured that open source software can substitute for its commercial equivalents in a way that's cost-effective, secure, and sustainable in the long term. That message must become the new public face of open source. In short, if open source wants to be treated like a grown-up, it must talk like one. ............................................................................................................................

I can see what he's saying. On the other hand, the free, open discussion of morality and politics which goes on in the Open Source Community is one of it's strengths. Big corporations tend to take the line "we don't do morality, we do profit" and a whole lot of people have absolutely had enough of it.

Capitalism doesn't work. It mostly benefits a select few and offers "enough" rewards to the "middle classes" to keep them quiet while they act as police and money collectors for the few. It encourages competition to the point of insanity and utter contempt for life, the environment and human dignity.

With all my heart I don't see why we should ape this in order to gain favour with the select few. If inviduals/companies want to play in that market then that's their call. But it doesn't mean we all have to pretend to be who we are not.

Anyone for a food fight?

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where is this grownup's table?

But then, I think ESR's ravings look pretty tame compared to the endless flow of double-talk and contradictions that flow out of Sun, and the bizarre antics of Steve Ballmer, and the endless tidal wive of lies and propaganda that sweep out of Redmond. So... where is this grownup's table?
I don't know where the grown-up's table is but I'm going to do a search on what one has to do to find it.

To sit at the grown up's table, you have to be able to hold an ultra-fine 31 guage insulin needle by a certain set of muscles not discussed in polite company, walk across the room and tell another lie, smile serenely and with all manner of sincerity, lie again while standing on one foot. Then say, "get the facts".

Tom, I think it's simpler than that.

The "grown-ups" table is, IMESHO, conceptually similar to "adult" movies, most of which are fundamentally very childish. It seems to boil down to "have money to burn, and act like you own the road".

Mark Shuttleworth has money to burn, but doesn't act like he owns the road (watch the video of his Soyuz talk from LCA2005; the guy is definitely legend material!) so doesn't get taken seriously by most of the "movers and shakers". [digression: more fool, them]

Many other "Open Source luminaries" act like they own the road, but they have very little money to burn, so they don't get taken seriously.

William Henry "Trey" Gates III has money to burn and acts like he designed and built the road with his own sweat, but his almost perfect lack of foresight combined with his breath-taking chutzpah have started to get him laughed at in many places, even if sometimes behind his back. The supply of dead presidents and chutzpah have staved this off for a ridiculously long time, but it's still happening.

The final item to flee this particular Pandora's Box is the nature of Open Source: it doesn't need to be taken seriously by "movers and shakers" in order to achieve widespread "market" penetration; I call to witness Apache, BIND, SendMail, PostFix, QMail, EXIM, Samba, PostgreSQL, PERL, PHP, Linux and sundry fellow travellers who all achieved significant "market" share before ever a serious investor knew they existed.

Capitalism doesn't work? Maybe we can put it another way.

It doesn't really matter if one calls it capitalism or not. Commerce works. But, when one can take advantage of a market by knowing information others don't know -- that's where the breakdown occurs and then you have unemployment, poverty, etc.

The whole issue has much confusion and bad metaphors around it. People simply react when they hear or see these labels. People who value money as a commodity over human life can't deal with others who know they will ultimately come to an end and that nothing they have accumulated will matter. No U-Haul trailers in the funeral procession one might say.

So, if you care about the quality of your life and realize that the game is bigger than any one individual, especially oneself, then behavior modifies. People become interested in making a difference. That's not anti-capitalism, it's about making a contribution and knowing it has something of a benefit to others. It's done without expectation of getting something for it. That's also known as giving.

People think they can cheat and get away with it. But ultimately, we all face the same fate. Open source is not about who has the most applications and who gathers the most money and piles it up. One can be successful with open source as easily as with proprietary software. It's about who can offer value, has the agreement of the world about the value and can have the symbol of value for some period of time.

Some people walk around with their noises in the air in $3000 Italian suits and live on marble floors and don't look at others, ridicule others and pretend to be invincible. So, what, all that and 75 cents will buy you an 8 ounce coca cola.

It would have been better if I had said "unfettered, free market (as it is today rather than in a fair state) capitalism doesn't work". Meaning the polluting, politician buying, scientist buying, patent filing, ultra-letigious companies. If trade is fair then trade is OK. (Ideally, trade for the sake of making up each others lack, but that's a dream.)

It comes down to what is considered as profit? A pile of money or an improved community/person.

Unfortunately, several thousand years of human history answer that one.

On a different note...

It's like when the Bible first came out in the common tongue, Previously it was in latin and it was read in latin and the priests had the only "correct interpretation". The appearance of the Bible caused a storm because here it was in English, read it yourself and decide for yourself what it means and what your response to it is. Sort of a bit like open sourcing the Word.

And Windows is encrypted and we have to take it from the mother church what is what and when and how much. And we are taxed for their sins. Except they're our sins because the EULA says so. And Bill periodically issues Papal Bulls.

And along comes Open Source and they're doing the media equivalent of burning people at the stake, attempting to discredit the idea, preaching from the pulpit against it.

But the printing presses (distros/cd-burners) keep springing up everywhere and the code is out and the idea is out and the stable alas, is empty.
WOW. Excellent articulation on both topics. I particularly found considerable substance in the "unfettered" discussion .

One the second, the parallel makes for an excellent metaphor.

Thanks!
Frankly, I find it all a bit tedious.

It's easy to rip something to shreds without offering a workable alternative. So far, that hasn't happened.

Capitalism works beautifully as an economic system. It requires a functional government doing the things that a government should do (watchdog the environment, adjudicate disputes, promulgate and enforce such laws as needed to protect the interests of all citizens, etc.).







It's easy to rip something to shreds without offering a workable alternative. So far, that hasn't happened.

The open source community model provides such an alternative or at least a workable basis for one. I'm not unrealistic enough to think we can just toss the present system out of the window. I only pointed out that the present system isn't working for the majority.

All of which sprang from the feeling that we need people who periodically say things that make us uncomfortable. And that accepting those people and bothering to at least listen and consider what they are saying is more grown up than stifling free speech by insisting on the party line being kept to at all times, or, worse, stifling free speech "lest we upset the sponsors".
Do you consider Microsoft, for example, a force in making sure capitalism works or doesn't work? Personally, I believe we need serious reform in every area of government because a company like Microsoft can control how politicians vote, call in favors when regulators want to investigate their business practices and make the market truly unfair.

To say capitalism works when a monopoly controls the technology market is wishful thinking. I can't buy a DVD and watch it on my computer because of some screwed up law? And if I am suspected of piracy, US Marshalls show up at my door and take all my equipment and records away and I don't see them again for months maybe years.

Hey, I called the FBI once to report computer crime, they took the compromised computer and I got it back eighteen months later and nothing happened. It was then a worthles piece of junk.

Capitalism works occassionally in the present environment. Unregulated, it doesn't work - look at Russia and the mafia. When regulation is bought off - Al Capone, it doesn't work. When politicians become pawns, it doesn't work.

That's not to say that people can't own the means of production. It means somebody is fooling around with people's ownership and basically confiscating the means of production from those who can provide the value in the community.



Arguably, to be anti-competitive is to be anti capitalist. Locking the market in to a cycle of often costly upgrades and doing deals with governments to tie public services into legally questionable contracts is not anything approaching free market economics.

Bill Gates's vision is for "one world, one net, one program". Doesn't sound to me like he's planning on sharing it with anybody.

If the market is seen as, and is allowed to be, a cut throat place of under handed deals and merciless competition and moral compromise when expedient, then it follows that companies will be the same. This is also true of politics.

The issue of whether or not to keep religion and state affairs separate has been a major one in history. Perhaps we should consider whether to keep business and state apart. It is wrong that companies can influence policy to their advantage and evade the law by abusing the legal system.

Take the recent EU fine for Microsoft. To make things a little fairer the fine should have been paid straight away and put into an account. At the end of the trials, if Microsoft win, they get their money back. The interest goes to help the homeless of Europe. A system like this would encourage better behaviour by corporations and at the same time, reduce the amount of time and money wasted on endless appeals. This isn't likely to happen though, several administrations in this country (the UK) have come into power promising reform and the end of corporate sleaze and the closing of "tax loopholes" and little has changed. Twas ever thus.

A somewhat daunting task is in front of us. To change. To change the economic system so it doesn't rely on a constant stream of profit generated by an endless circle of produce-consume-discard. It can only come from the consumers, via education. And education by example not by dictat. Which in turn means using the media. Where you come up against the influence of the "multi-nationals" again.

I suspect the coming months and years will be most interesting. Can the open source model really invade consciousness to the point where it begins to change society and government?





The more I see the less I think of arguments like this.

I'm beginning to find pieces like this to be silly. I presently spend a lot of time working with a large corporate IT group that is very definitely relying on Open Source software to meet its goals, and moving work from both Unix and Windows platforms to Linux.

Here's what I have come to know:

Organizations with astute IT management -- the kind whose support for logistics helped to turn Wal-Mart into a retail powerhouse, for example -- don't give a rat's ass what Eric Raymond or Richard Stallman or anybody else has to say.

Their concerns are very prosaic:

They need to provide services that will help their company to make money, preferably to make more money more effectively and more cheaply than the competitors.

Open Source software is part of that process. It is malleable, it is flexible. You can configure it and its supporting hardware to fit your business needs rather than your vendors licensing schemes.

Microsoft may or may not be evil. It does, however, tend to charge lots of money for software that is painfully licensed and insufficiently robust for heavy duty enterprise work. That doesn't go over well with people who need to move the enterprise forward.

Let everybody jabber all they want. Until talks starts affecting the bottom line, serious IT folks won't care.





















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