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An open reply to Mr. Titch

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Lxer; By Michael Crider
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Mr. Titch, in his article The Dangers of Dictating Procurement, shows that he has spent too much time listening to Microsoft propaganda and not enough time thinking for himself - a sad position for a think tank representative. Now Mr. Titch says he has received "no real reply". Mr. Titch, here is my reply.

"A Massachusetts directive that mandates use of an open source software format for electronic document storage marked a major victory for the open source movement." First of all, ODF is not an open source software format. Its only tie to open source is that two implementations have been released as open source. At least two more implementations have been released as closed source, commercial products (from Sun and IBM), and there are promises of more to follow. ODF is not an "open source software format", it is an "open standard format".

"It remains to be seen, however, whether the order will benefit the state's agencies and employees or save taxpayers money." The origin of the Open Formats standard was not about saving money with open source software. It was about saving the property of taxpayers, documents generated by their government, so it would always be available to anyone, at any point in the future. An open standard format guarantees that there can always be software that will use that format, whether the company with the founding implementation is still around or not. ODF was selected by Massachusetts last November for office documents because, during the time spent preparing the decision, it was the only open standard format available. An important by-product of open standards is that they introduce competition in the marketplace, which will lead to better products for lower prices, thus potentially saving taxpayers money. As long as the undocumented Microsoft Office format, either binary or XML, remains the de facto standard, there can be no true competition and Microsoft can set the price where they desire.

"Unlike proprietary software...the authors of open source software have elected to waive collection of any copyright or license fee." License fee, yes, copyright, no. Open source software is copyrighted, but it is released under a license, such as the GPL, that allows use of the software without a fee. However, since the subject of this article is the selection of ODF, we are debating open standards vs. closed de facto standards, and open source is a totally unrelated subject, so I will not dwell on it.

"At the same time, where there is product choice, especially in technology, informed evaluation is essential. One size rarely fits all. It's dangerous for governments to legislate or dictate procurement decisions." Amen! I would have been proud to write this. It explains very succinctly why we must replace a Microsoft-only procurement guideline with a guideline that guarantees competition - from IBM, Sun, Corel (maybe), and even Microsoft if they want to still be involved. With multiple vendors competing equally, each agency can choose the product that best meets their needs.

"Last November, Peter J. Quinn, Massachusetts' Chief Information Officer, ordered the use of Open Document Format (ODF), the format for documents, spreadsheets, and presentations used by OpenOffice.org, an open source competitor of Microsoft Office. The strengths and weaknesses of OpenOffice.org and Microsoft Office make for great debate in IT circles--a debate Quinn stifled with his sweeping mandate." Once again Mr. Titch is confused on the debate that occurred in Massachusetts. ODF vs. Open XML (as it is now called by Microsoft) != OOo vs. MSO.

"Starting in 2007, all documents created by the state, including all those posted on the state's Web site, must be in ODF format. This is being done, we are told, to ensure "interoperability" across multiple software platforms and avoid vendor "lock-in," principally to Microsoft Office. There is, however, one big problem with this mandate: Very few users have bothered to download the free software to open and read ODF files." "Find in this page" in Firefox could not find any reference to PDF in your entire article. Yet, PDF is the preferred format I have seen at any government web site for downloadable files, and will still be permitted under the new guidelines in Massachusetts. ODF is only necessary, and indeed only suitable, when the person receiving the document needs to make modifications (beyond what form capabilities allow in PDF). I don't think any users will find themselves needing OOo to read files from the Massachusetts web site.

"OpenOffice.org is not enjoying the reception Firefox has. This fact alone tells us PC users can discern degrees of value among open source alternatives." Even though you have forgotten, or not realized, that OOo is not the only suite available to Massachusetts, your comparison brings up some interesting points. The web was created based on an open standard, and any browser that follows that standard should be able to compete on a level playing field. Microsoft upset the playing field by inducing web developers to use proprietary extensions to the standard that only Microsoft's product knew how to handle. Mozilla spent years playing catch-up to Internet Explorer. Finally with the release of Firefox 1.0, users had utility and experience as good as or better than IE offered. As more users gravitated to Firefox, web developers paid attention and began dropping Microsoft's proprietary extensions. Now nearly the only reason to stick with IE, beyond visiting the few lone sites that still require it, is a personal preference to continue battling spyware and viruses on a daily basis. Star Office has also spent years playing catch-up to MSO, but I believe only with the relatively recent release of OOo 2.0 did it reach a level where the majority of office suite users, including this long-time WordPerfect suite user, could make a complete switch. However, OOo does such a good job at dealing with MSO documents (binary format only at this time) that many people who need to share documents resort to using the MSO format rather than the superior ODF format. As more users make the switch to OOo or some other suite that supports the ODF format, we will see more exchanging open standard ODF documents, just as we now are seeing more open standard web sites.

Another point related to your comment. Compared to Firefox, OOo is a huge download, especially for those with a slow connection. Because of this, those who need to install it on multiple computers are far more likely to download it once and save it locally, while many will download Firefox repeatedly at each computer that needs it installed. Like any free software, it is almost impossible to get a complete count of users for OOo. You may know many OOo users that send you documents in MSO format because they know that is what you use. I challenge you to try using OOo for one month, and to invite everyone with whom you exchange documents to do the same.

"In addition, as legislators in other states mull similar open source mandates..." Similar to what? Once again I would like to remind you that an ODF mandate has nothing to do with open source.

"While Microsoft has a strategic interest in the choice of Windows and Microsoft Office, companies like IBM have a similar strategic interest in the choice of open source. The Massachusetts law tilts state procurement heavily toward vendors like IBM...", that is multiple vendors who have chosen to support the ODF standard, and tilts away from a single vendor with one proprietary format. Sounds good for the consumer to me. For the moment I will ignore the fact that you persist in using the term "open source" instead of "open standard" in a subject that does not involve open source.

While it has nothing to do with the ODF debate and should not be discussed in the same article, I will not argue with the point that many companies (including, but not exclusively, IBM) are swinging towards a model of giving away software and selling support. This has been well documented in recent news articles. To me, this makes much more sense for the consumer. If there are multiple programs that may work for you, you can try out each of the free programs at no cost and determine which is best in your situation. Then you can purchase the level of support that is fitting for your situation, or, like the company I work for, you can decide to depend mostly on support from your own IT staff and the free software community.

"The key procurement choice is whether the state's IT organization will commit to a long-term product path with companies like Microsoft, or a long-term consulting path with companies like IBM." No, the key procurement choice is whether the state's IT organization will commit to a long-term product path with only Microsoft, fully dependent on the continued existence of Microsoft and their non-existent track record of supporting old file formats, or a long-term path of choosing the best product from multiple companies, with different costs and support options.

"The sweeping, pre-emptive policy devised by the former Massachusetts CIO, unfortunately, prevented any of the state's other IT decision-makers from making any long-term evaluation..." I would strongly advise that you research the timeline for this decision. Massachusetts spent nearly a year seeking feedback from vendors and other interested parties before it announced its decision. All of the research done has been made available on the web, so anybody, including the state's other IT decision-makers, can review it and see for themselves how comprehensive it is. No, this was not a policy dropped suddenly on the state by any single man with no outside input.

"... and dangerously assumes the open source path will always be less expensive and more user-friendly." Once again you persist in using "open source" instead of "open standard". I would like to refer you to the beginning of my reply where I address the real reasons for their choice.

"IT officials in Massachusetts--along with the thousands of state employees who are being asked to implement and learn new software, not to mention the state's taxpayers, who may get stuck with a huge IT consulting bill--may end up ruing this policy." Or the thousands of state employees can be asked to implement and learn new Microsoft Office software next year, with a new interface, new file format, and a monopolistic price tag, and a future generation of state's taxpayers, who live in a world where there is no Microsoft, will rue the fact that nobody ever stood up for the long-term preservation of government documents.

Now that you realize, I hope, that the majority of your article had nothing to do with the original subject, I want to make sure you also realize that Microsoft has finally come to agreement with Peter Quinn. It was after his final decision to use open standard formats was announced in November that Microsoft began the process of making their own new XML format an open standard. Even though I believe that the ODF format is still far superior to the Open XML format (the reasons would take another whole article, but have been well addressed by Andy Updegrove and others), and that it will take the continued monopolistic practices of Microsoft for them to retain a majority of the market, nobody can argue that Microsoft still believes this is just a battle against open source, or that open standards are always a bad thing.

DISCLAIMER: I am part of the IT department for a rural electric cooperative, not located in Massachusetts, which uses open source and open standards wherever it is feasible. I have no ties to Massachusetts, and all information I have presented here has been gleaned from articles written by both sides of the debate for over a year.

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Comments (18)

How will he reply?

Inhibit ·
I'm just wondering how Mr. Titch will reply to your and DCParris's point by point refutation of his unresearched rant. I'm curious to see if he can pointedly ignore reality once again and slog on with his pro (what, exactly) campaign of dis-information.

I would be ashamed to have anyone so poorly informed in a "think" tank.
tuxchick2 ·
Probably something informed and well-reasoned, like

"My name is Olaf, I'm from France I'm not wearing underpants"
jdixon ·
> Probably something informed and well-reasoned, like

> "My name is Olaf, I'm from France I'm not wearing underpants"

He hasn't come up with anything that good yet, why should he start now?
hiohoaus ·
They ARE sponsored by Microsoft.

Their co-sponsors' sites all said so and listed Heartland as co-sponsorees, although in the last few days the label "Microsoft" appears to have been recognised as the political "kiss of death" it always has been (if not always admitting to this) and so has been secreted from view at/by many of them.

Heartland also actively support the commercial addiction of people to lethal chemicals, and even admit to at least 10% of all such users dying as a result of their use.
dinotrac ·
>I'm just wondering how Mr. Titch will reply to your and DCParris's point by point refutation of his unresearched rant.

It is not an unresearched rant. It is a piece of propaganda. Propaganda can be and sometimes is done by people who do not not what they are talking about. The best is done by people who know very well what they are talking about.

Consider:

First year law students go through an competition called Moot Court. Moot Court doesn't teach you case law. It doesn't even teach you arguing skills. It teaches you a fundamental fact of lawyering that is also a fundamental fact of lobbying and of public relations:

You promote the cause of the people you are working for. To win, however,you must know the other side at least as well as your own.
grouch ·
dinotrac: >"It is not an unresearched rant. It is a piece of propaganda."

That sums it up. No amount of arguing with such propagandists will change their tune; they can only be swayed by higher pay. The only reason to respond to them is to mitigate the damages they can cause with their disinformation.

They ARE sponsored by Microsoft.

hiohoaus ·
Their co-sponsors' sites all said so and clearly listed Heartland as co-sponsorees, although in the last few days the label "Microsoft" appears to have been recognised as the political "kiss of death" it always has been (if not always admitting to this) and so has been secreted from view at/by many of them.

Heartland also actively support the commercial addiction of people to lethal chemicals, and even admit to at least 10% of all such users dying as a result of their use.
hiohoaus ·
Have a look at this page http://www.cato.org/sponsors/sponsors.html for example and scan carefully through the list of Foundations as well, for Bill-influenced names.
NoDough ·
You lost me. Why are CATO's contributors relevant to Heartland?
dcparris ·
I would like to see a more direct link between Heartland and Microsoft. If you can verify that, I'll publish it as news. Otherwise, all we can really say for now is that The Heartland Institute is very fond of a convicted monopolist, for some odd reason.
hkwint ·
Heartland is a 501(c). This seems to mean (I'm European) they have to tell where there money goes to, but they don't have to tell where it comes from.

Till 2004, Heartland published their funders (acconding to their own website), but after that, they stopped doing so. See http://www.heartland.org/FAQArticle.cfm?faqId=7

Most funding comes from some big foundations, like Bill and Berniece Grewcock Foundation, Castle Rock Foundation, Scaife Foundations, Armstrong Foundation, Barre Seid Foundation and Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation. http://www.mediatransparency.org/recipientprofile.php?recipi...

They say 32% of the funding is corporate.

Since 501(c) fundings are tax deductible, if MS paid them money and deducted it from their taxes, one should be able to find out by looking at the MS balance sheets and other digits like that.

However, they probably tried to hide their tracks, and if their was any funding involved, it must have gone via-via.
hkwint ·
You should check this link: http://wifinetnews.com/archives/004765.html

and look for what they say about Steven Titch. Interesting...
hkwint ·
Darnit, you should check this Heartland article about MS and the EC:

Anti-Trust or Anti-Americanism? http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=19048

This is the FIRST article I ever read about MS versus EC. which not mentions the word "monopoly" (nowhere on the page!), the reasons for the actions of the EC against MS.

Here's some framing languages/FUD from the piece:

It makes Heartland look even more suspicious... As Microsoft’s attorneys and other American representatives told the CFI, the intellectual property in question does not act like a language, but rather like DNA. That would give Microsoft’s rivals the ability not to talk with them, but to clone them--a dangerous development that should be avoided. As Jim Prendergast of Americans for Technology Leadership noted, “This portion of the remedy should be titled ‘attack of the clones.’”

Here we HAVE a smoking gun: Sonia Arrison (sarrison@pacificresearch.org) is director of technology studies at the Pacific Research Institute. This institute gets money from MS: http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Pacific_Research_...

We should write something about it maybe...
hkwint ·
Sorry for this many posts, but it starts to get interesting.

If you read the story "Progress & Freedom Foundation", written by James V. DeLong, you may wonder why this person says interoperability breaches Intellectual Property.

Here the interesting ('MS defending') parts: "Interoperability is not synonymous with interchangability. Any situation that demands platform suppliers give away underlying intellectual property in order to allow a competitor to create what is essentially a generic duplicate, undermines the value of the intellectual capital used to create the platform and any products or services that use it.

"Those who regard the destruction of IPR as the key to promoting interoperability and cooperation among firms have the situation exactly backward. To the contrary, the road to effective cooperation and interoperability is through IPR."


On the end of the story we read: James V. DeLong is a senior fellow and director of the Center for the Study of Digital Property (IPCentral) at the Progress & Freedom Foundation.

Yes, you guessed right: the Progress & Freedom Foundation is sponsored by the usual suspects: MS, Intel, Disney, Google, Apple, Verisign... (See http://www.pff.org/about/supporters.html)
grouch ·
Looks like you've found another message vending machine. Drop in the coins, choose the message, and out it spews.

hkwint ·
And it goes on... There's a story at Heartland called "Free' Software Isn’t Free".

Written by Steve DelBianco, who represents the Association for Competitive Technology and the NetChoice Coalition.

Microsoft is one of the membres of that coalition. http://www.actonline.org/omembers.htm

David B. Kopel has written a book, called "Antitrust after Microsoft : The Obsolescence of Antitrust in the Digital Era". It is published by Heartland. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0963202758/002-4599148-8512...

David B. Kopel works for the Independent Institute. MS was the biggest funder of the Independent Institute in 1999. http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Independent_Insti...

So, though we didn't find a direct relation between Heartland/Titch and MS, I think the above examples say enough.
hkwint ·
One post went up in smoke (?), so I'll repost the best part I found till now.

One Heartland piece is written by Barry M. Aarons ,senior research fellow for the Institute for Policy Innovation. http://www.heartland.org/Article.cfm?artId=19052

Looking for money from MS to the IPI, I couldn't find anything, but I did found something far more interesting: An businessweek called Op-Eds for sale. http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/dec2005/nf200512...

It deals about a guy called 'Ferrara' who received money from Abramoff: Peter Ferrara, a senior policy adviser at the conservative Institute for Policy Innovation, says he, too, took money from Abramoff to write op-ed pieces boosting the lobbyist's clients. "I do that all the time," Ferrara says. "I've done that in the past, and I'll do it in the future." We all know who one of the lobbyists client is (I hope, if not, go read some stories Tom Adelstein wrote about Abramoff).

Then, it becomes even more interesting: ...he adds that at some point over the years, Abramoff stopped working with him: "Jack lost interest in me and felt he had other writers who were writing in more prominent publications," Ferrara says.

I must add, Abramoffs money went to Ferrara before he started to work for IPI.

So, what do we learn? Most people writing for Heartland work for thinktanks of which Microsoft brings in funds.

That's not a problem, as long as anyone knows Microsoft pays. The problem with both IPI and Heartland is, they don't reveal their funds anymore, and therefore they shouldn't be suprised, people see them as being bribed.

After this happened, Ferrara's IPI bos, Mr Giovanetti, started a verbal fistfight with businessweek with ended with a letter from Mr Giovanetti stating, amongst others, 1. There is no legal requirement for IPI to disclose its funding sources, so no-one can know for sure if they are funded by Microsoft or not. 2. Open source software is lame. 3. Open sourcers spend their time writing viruses and worms, hacking websites, and asserting things without proof. 4. In any case, if IPI is funded by Microsoft (not that Giovenetti is admitting this), criticizing IPI will just make them seem more heroic and ensure continued funding. OK, that's convinces me Mr Giovanetti!
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tuxchick2 ·
wow, Hans, when you get riled up, look what happens! Nice research, thanks.

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