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Ubuntu 9.04 on my 8.04 laptop: Intel video issues sink upgrade
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Steven may also find that his problems with the Intel would no longer be there if he installed the system and did the latest updates. I was having problems with my desktop which uses an Intel 3100 IGP in that if I tried to run Google Earth under compiz it would flash the graphics part of the program constantly. If I turned off compiz there was no flashing, but the graphics were dead slow.
Since the latest update this morning both of those problem are gone.
Then again, it may depend on the Intel chip you have. My laptop with an Intel 4500 IGP has none of the problems.
Since the latest update this morning both of those problem are gone.
Then again, it may depend on the Intel chip you have. My laptop with an Intel 4500 IGP has none of the problems.
Ah, for the record my laptop has a gma4500 but did have trouble.
My test box has intel 945 intgrated graphics, and was barely usable after the upgrade to jaunty, so sluggish that it was unpleasant to use. After the upgrade to the 2.6.30 kernel and the updated video drivers it was a new machine, snappy and responsive.
My graphics chip on this particular laptop (Toshiba Satellite 1100-S101) is the Intel 82830M.
I've been having problems with Linux since Lenny was in Testing. Most BSDs haven't been stellar, either, but OpenBSD 4.4 was perfect. Of course, so was Debian Etch, Puppy Linux, CentOS 5.
And now that I have the AccelMethod XAA, I can run Lenny and presumably Slackware with no issues. The fix is not needed in Ubuntu 8.04 ... too bad it doesn't work at all in 9.04.
The point of my article is that when you're screwing around, It's easy enough to roll back ... and I do have two mostly-identical laptops on which to test systems, but the "classic" Ubuntu method is to run the live CD and see how the hardware reacts. I'm not keen on taking a chance that somehow Ubuntu has resolved its Xorg issues for Intel chipsets. I'm not interested in Compiz, gaming or much of anything other than my display working.
@ABCC -- Thanks for that Ubuntuforums page. That lays out some concrete things to try in xorg.conf, but I just don't want to get into swapping kernels just to get basic functionality. I'd rather use distros that aren't this messed up.
The main point I'm trying to get at in the article is how/why did Xorg get so messed up so that Intel -- one of the more popular models of graphics chips out there -- was basically thrown way under the bus and repeatedly run over? I got screwed in both Linux and BSD on this one, and given that lots and lots of newbies out there have this hardware, we're basically driving them away.
How this happened at all is just astounding, and I wish I understood. It makes closed-source Nvidia drives actually look like a good thing.
I've been having problems with Linux since Lenny was in Testing. Most BSDs haven't been stellar, either, but OpenBSD 4.4 was perfect. Of course, so was Debian Etch, Puppy Linux, CentOS 5.
And now that I have the AccelMethod XAA, I can run Lenny and presumably Slackware with no issues. The fix is not needed in Ubuntu 8.04 ... too bad it doesn't work at all in 9.04.
The point of my article is that when you're screwing around, It's easy enough to roll back ... and I do have two mostly-identical laptops on which to test systems, but the "classic" Ubuntu method is to run the live CD and see how the hardware reacts. I'm not keen on taking a chance that somehow Ubuntu has resolved its Xorg issues for Intel chipsets. I'm not interested in Compiz, gaming or much of anything other than my display working.
@ABCC -- Thanks for that Ubuntuforums page. That lays out some concrete things to try in xorg.conf, but I just don't want to get into swapping kernels just to get basic functionality. I'd rather use distros that aren't this messed up.
The main point I'm trying to get at in the article is how/why did Xorg get so messed up so that Intel -- one of the more popular models of graphics chips out there -- was basically thrown way under the bus and repeatedly run over? I got screwed in both Linux and BSD on this one, and given that lots and lots of newbies out there have this hardware, we're basically driving them away.
How this happened at all is just astounding, and I wish I understood. It makes closed-source Nvidia drives actually look like a good thing.
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It's still not 100% though, Firefox shows up the odd artifact or two that require an app restart to solve. Overall it's much better, without the upgrades 9.04 was not usuable.
HTH,
ABCC