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Moonlight was written in three weeks in June of 2007 by a group of Mono developers working round the clock to fulfil a promise made by Miguel de Icaza. Despite such heroics Moonlight continues to face resistance from the wider developer community...

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If accurate, this article leads me to only one conclusion...

149 earlier comments in the full thread.

I wish I were in the sunny topics right now...
Hans,

Mono is a disease, I had it once. Now all students are required to be inoculated prior to being allowed on campus (I am assuming that applies at most colleges in the U.S.). Now that the topic is biology, I have a great article on BioEngineering using open source BioBricks to build new life forms: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/14/magazine/14Biology-t.html?...

The title is: Do-It-Yourself Genetic Engineering.

YBT
Speaking of IPv6, I found this interesting development.

The D-Link DIR-615 version C ran IPv6 and acted as a tunnel termination, basically a wonderful way to implement IPv6 right now.

...but the version D doesn't.

At the same time, their DIR-825 didn't do IPv6, but version B does! And the pages from the product manual available at the D-Link web site demonstrate the same functionality that the DIR-615 previous version had.

Funny thing, the -825 is about $80 more.

They wouldn't have realized they could get people to buy the more expensive version, could they?

Just musing.
Huh? Were we talking about IPv6? Or is it just another bit of Bob-humor?
Hans --

You misunderstand completely. We have sunk into potty humor.

In the US, V-8 is a vegetable juice. Three quarters of what goes in comes out.
V8? Really? And we haven't even implemented V6 fully yet.

Gosh, I love mass marketing and OpenSource software development. Just as I get used to one thing, it gets changed. Again.

If I could have any car, it would be the 1986 Saab 900. The pinnacle of Sweedish aircraft engineering.
>The pinnacle of Sweedish aircraft engineering.

Some wonderful and quirky cars have come from those folks. Sad to see the current state of the company.
On Friday, I think, when it was so blasted windy around here, I had to drive to get something.

The wind was so strong, it was blowing the car around on the road. So much so I took pains not to cruise next to anyone, just in case. I noticed that everyone else was having much the same problem.

Even in Utah, where they get some serious winds, that Saab stuck to the road like glue. No matter what the wind was doing, it never seemed to effect the car enough for me to really have to deal with it.

Then they came out with the 9000, and they looked just like everyone else's cars. Boring.
Oh man, this one really is too easy...

Quoting:Sad to see the current state of the company ... Then they came out with the 9000, and they looked just like everyone else's cars. Boring.


If accurate, that leads me to only one conclusion...

It's General Motors that led to the current sad state of the company and only boring cars (like everyone else's cars) being produced. So basically you're saying GM screwed up. Given Saab only lost money after it was bought by GM, and since GM is bankrupt nowadays and had to be bought by the US citizens to survive, that statement surely can't be denied.

Thank God (sorry TOS) Saab was saved from the grave. Sure, it's still with one foot in the grave as it was bought by some silly Dutch guy that never made any profit with his first brand BTW, but apart from that it's the second car manufacturer with an 'aero history' he buys. Which brings us back to V.4: It's the last aeroplane Spyker produced (during the 20's). So we're back on topic after a short detour it seems.
My favorite motorcycle was a v4.
Hans --

GM has a long and proud history of screwing up cars, going back to the soulless reign Roger Smith (of "Roger and Me" fame) a financial type, who saw cars only in terms of "units".

Prior to Smith, GM had the generic American car company problems -- product mix that reflected an older reality, quality control that fit the world of new care every other year buyers, and a conviction that small = cheaply made.

But -- they also had some audacious engineering and styling chops. The Corvair, unfairly maligned by the Naderites, was one of the most interesting (and entertaining) cars ever produced in the US -- especially after the 1965 suspension redesign. The Corvette was always (except for the ealry 1970s) good for a thrill or two, and things like the humangaloid Olds Toronado and Cadillac ElDorado were the ultimate surreal implementations of the Austin Mini -- giant high-power front wheel drive cars that conspicuously avoided any of the packaging efficiency (save for a flat rear floor) that led small car makers in that direction.

Smith led to units with badges, nearly-identical (and boring) cars old at multiple price-points, including the absurd Cadillac Cimarron. People got wise and Smith proved to an honest observer that financial types can ruin a non-financial company.

Hey, you were not supposed to agree! Now our OT discussion is over, because we can't discuss something we agree on (Yes, Corvette's are nice, you see, no discussion!)

Quoting:I've asked TomTom on numerous occassions, and they still won't support Linux desktops.


TomTom is irrelevant now that Google Maps etc. runs on Android I guess. Another company RIP, overtaken by technological progress and cheap mass market smartphones. They'd better start selling PND's you can use to text and phone, using VOIP etc.
> People got wise and Smith proved to an honest observer that financial types can ruin a non-financial company.

Agreed, but incompetent management can ruin any company, whether they come from the financial side or not. Look how good a job Immelt is doing at GE.
Yeah, but he's a Harvard MBA. That's a whole special category of bad.
> That's a whole special category of bad.

Ain't that the truth.
> That's a whole special category of bad. It's the illusion of credibility that causes the most harm.
> It's the illusion of credibility that causes the most harm.

example: see windows
> example: see windows

What? You can't think of several other Harvard grads that fit the description?
>What? You can't think of several other Harvard grads that fit the description?

Sane people purge such thoughts from their minds.
> Sane people...

Ah, that explains it.

block selected users from our private mail?

This was sort of fun, but it got boring so I stopped, and saphon is still cluttering my LXer mailbox. Is there a block-user feature somewheres?

why are you defending schlesinger who is a fake feminist From: slaphon, To: tuxchick Total Replies: 10 Post Reply - Mark as unread - Skip to New Author Content slaphon Jan 22, 2010 5:35 PM and he stalks and harasses women, to the point they are severely traumatized. why don't you mind your own business? don't like it, don't read it. it is on topic for an anti mono thread.

tuxchick Jan 22, 2010 5:50 PM Crawl back under your rock, spammer, nobody cares about your silly hatchet-grinding.

slaphon Jan 22, 2010 5:57 PM You harm gnome and linux and gnu with your lies and hostility. I am not a spammer, I am one of the many women Schlesinger has harmed. grow up.

tuxchick Jan 22, 2010 6:28 PM LOL, so far all I see is an anonymous copypasta troll.

slaphon Jan 22, 2010 6:43 PM facts are not the same thing as trolling. google 'stonemirror + troll', and educate yourself. your hostility and vileness are over the top, and you don't even know what you are talking about. you have no right or reason to abuse me in such a manner, and you are in the wrong and small to do it. do you really get off on attacking victims? you are the troll, you are a very old and very evil troll from what I see.

tuxchick Jan 22, 2010 6:55 PM Oh gwan, flattery will get you nowhere. If you're a woman I'm a unicorn. But do keep piling on the charm and reason, I am almost persuaded to your point of view.

slaphon Jan 22, 2010 7:04 PM David “Lefty” Schlesinger aka ‘Stonemirror’ has a long, long history of other people unrelated to me in any way who have accused him of threats of violence and extortion, in those exact verbatim terms. This is all archived in the mid 90’s waldorf critics email archive. In particular, Lefty so terrorized a woman named Kathy Sutphen with his threats and demands of $5,000 legal damages for every one of his menacing emails that she published - that Kathy was in fear for her physical safety and suffered adverse mental and physical effects. This is archived here, and in other places in the Waldorf/Anthroposophist critics archive: [HYPERLINK@www.waldorfcritics.org] and quoted verbatim : ““I’d save the ASCII totem for an occasion just prior to your court )) )date, in the event that ever actually comes to pass: you’ll need all )) )the good luck you can scrape together. )) ) )) )– )) )Lefty Redux [gYon-Pa] (lefty apple.com), (dns netcom.com) )) )C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:. )) )) I was utterly shocked by the vicious animosity of these messages. In all )) honesty, I have find them to be quite intimidating. They have affected my )) sleep and my appetite. I do not know to what lengths this man will go to )) for retaliation. I hope that his anger is limited to email and I have not )) exhibited foolish bravado in posting these. However, I will not participate )) in his abuse by continuing to allow him to send me these types of messages )) privately with the thought that his threats of extortion will keep me from )) sharing. Every abuser needs to be drug into a public forum posthaste. It is )) only in a public arena that this type of behavior can be halted. )) )) I hope that others of you that have been subjected to this type of abuse )) will ignore his threats and make his behavior public. )) )) Kathy Sutphen”

tuxchick Jan 22, 2010 7:24 PM I guess I'm a unicorn! And you're still a troll.

slaphon Jan 22, 2010 7:33 PM You support harassment of women, that makes you the troll here, gramma.

slaphon Jan 22, 2010 7:38 PM trolls deal in insults, not facts. i present only documented facts. now, please buzz off. you are an obvious partisan and enemy of feminism, and this will be made public - all your nastiness, etc.

slaphon Jan 23, 2010 7:22 PM like chris farley crossed with a toothy ayn rand... shudder...

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