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Why Google does not own Skype
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Just maybe ...
You're just worried about your MS shill checks bouncing. Don't worry, they have more billions.
Hey tc,
It's worse than my MS shill checks bouncing. Think about when the size of their cash horde dwindles to a mere few tens of billions and the rest tied up in short term CDs where they pay a penalty for early withdrawal. What happens is even the rubberized checks cease.
Next they will take the last batch of certified MSPs that they have screwed over and drop them into shill slots I and others worked hard to build honestly, with integrity. For example, I run Linux, albeit I can screw up any OS I built points showing how it's done. I worked hard astroturfing and shilling for MS (and others) on these forums. Now all that effort goes down the drain, complements of Google's trickery and MS incompetence (with a good portion of avarice mixed in). That's what greed gets you when you lose your edge and friends.
So tell me how am I to make some semi-honest dollars when MS cannot afford dirty tricks? Tell me, please.
As always,
YBT
It's worse than my MS shill checks bouncing. Think about when the size of their cash horde dwindles to a mere few tens of billions and the rest tied up in short term CDs where they pay a penalty for early withdrawal. What happens is even the rubberized checks cease.
Next they will take the last batch of certified MSPs that they have screwed over and drop them into shill slots I and others worked hard to build honestly, with integrity. For example, I run Linux, albeit I can screw up any OS I built points showing how it's done. I worked hard astroturfing and shilling for MS (and others) on these forums. Now all that effort goes down the drain, complements of Google's trickery and MS incompetence (with a good portion of avarice mixed in). That's what greed gets you when you lose your edge and friends.
So tell me how am I to make some semi-honest dollars when MS cannot afford dirty tricks? Tell me, please.
As always,
YBT
> So tell me how am I to make some semi-honest dollars when MS cannot afford dirty tricks? Tell me, please.
The Obama campaign is desperately going to be needing people to explain how 18% unemployment is really so much better than it was 4 years ago in a few months.
All of the announced Republican candidates for the next election need help explaining to the base that, yes, they really are electable and worth voting for.
Warren Buffet needs some help explaining away the insider trading conviction of one of his employees.
The oil companies need help explaining how their current profits aren't really out of line with the economy the rest of us are dealing with.
I'm sure there are a number of others that I haven't thought of.
The Obama campaign is desperately going to be needing people to explain how 18% unemployment is really so much better than it was 4 years ago in a few months.
All of the announced Republican candidates for the next election need help explaining to the base that, yes, they really are electable and worth voting for.
Warren Buffet needs some help explaining away the insider trading conviction of one of his employees.
The oil companies need help explaining how their current profits aren't really out of line with the economy the rest of us are dealing with.
I'm sure there are a number of others that I haven't thought of.
jd,
Thanks, I was thinking of working for the Mafia, but you have given me hope. Sophisticated gangsters that hide the rough stuff is more to my liking and is less likely to lead to jail terms. That is, if I stay away from the worse of the hedge funds gimmicks and cheats.
If you think of any others, please post them so I can apply.
As always,
YBT [for the newer readers: YBT == Your Buddy Txt.]
Thanks, I was thinking of working for the Mafia, but you have given me hope. Sophisticated gangsters that hide the rough stuff is more to my liking and is less likely to lead to jail terms. That is, if I stay away from the worse of the hedge funds gimmicks and cheats.
If you think of any others, please post them so I can apply.
As always,
YBT [for the newer readers: YBT == Your Buddy Txt.]
Quoting:I'm sure there are a number of others that I haven't thought of.
A good start JD, It could be expanded by the Lxers making their contributions to the list and finally sending it to our senators and Representatives.
Elected officials need help explaining why they don't support a resolution to stop the $4 Billions in subsidies the oil companies get every year.
Supporters of Health Care insurance companies need help explaining why exactly they support those companies, what services do they supply us, and why do we need them.
Members of both Houses need help explaining why corporations and the rich individuals should have lower tax bracket and pay less taxes than middle class.
Many Elected officials need help explaining why they are so "chicken" and why they don't do what they promise us not what they promise the lobbyist behind closed doors.
I leave many for others to take their turn.
Careful Fettoosh. I did my best not to run afoul of the no politics provisions of the TOS by tarring both parties equally with obvious problems, but I don't think your list is quite as delicate about the matter.
We don't want to get the thread closed.
We don't want to get the thread closed.
Quoting:tarring both parties equally with obvious problems
I guess you are right, what I said applies to both even though one deserves more blame than the other and depending on the issue.
Hopefully it is all fixed now.
Fett... what? How about Foot Massager, that's better I can remember who you are now. && jd,
The fix is in. I will be to most ethical lobbyist in history. I will pay the agreed amount, on schedule and keep my mouth shut on the payoff amounts and the payee lists. Once bought they better stay bought, because I am required to resort to extreme measures should they develop a conscience.
Hey the money is not that bad ... the food passable, but booze ... I just have a too low tolerance so I must forgo that perk. Moreover, I tend to say and do stupid things when I approach an inebriated state. So I view it working even when it's supposed to be social. See, I am ethical and I walk a narrow path, albeit corrupt one.
As always, shillings are better than pence - any day.
YBT
The fix is in. I will be to most ethical lobbyist in history. I will pay the agreed amount, on schedule and keep my mouth shut on the payoff amounts and the payee lists. Once bought they better stay bought, because I am required to resort to extreme measures should they develop a conscience.
Hey the money is not that bad ... the food passable, but booze ... I just have a too low tolerance so I must forgo that perk. Moreover, I tend to say and do stupid things when I approach an inebriated state. So I view it working even when it's supposed to be social. See, I am ethical and I walk a narrow path, albeit corrupt one.
As always, shillings are better than pence - any day.
YBT
> Hopefully it is all fixed now.
Seems to be, yes. :) I hope mine is equally non-objectionable.
Of course, Scott is the final decision maker, but hopefully he appreciates the humor involved.
Seems to be, yes. :) I hope mine is equally non-objectionable.
Of course, Scott is the final decision maker, but hopefully he appreciates the humor involved.
Scott has no humor. He's a musician.
Quoting: How about Foot Massager
Fat chance Mr., this one can't be bought.
Foot Massager!!!? Give me a break. will yah!
Quoting:Scott has no humor. He's a musician.
I thought he was a drummer, always banging on about something.
Investors smart or not?
All the geniuses who ripped the investors who bought Skype from eBay in 2009 don't look so smart now.
Not necessarily. The problem with "investing" is that the fundamental rule of valuation is that a thing is worth whatever you can con some sucker into paying for it. So some things have pretty stable values, because lots and lots of people are willing to pay a certain price, and other things have unstable values, like Skype, because only a few entities are willing to pay a lot for it.
Skype has cost MS a ton of money, but their financials don't look very good. They've only recently even turned a profit, and it's tiny compared to what MS just paid for them. The only way this'll turn out well for MS is if they somehow use this acquisition to make more profit on their other products and services. Otherwise, it'll turn out like Zune: lots of money invested and mostly wasted because there wasn't enough profit in it.
Sure, this turned out really well for that group of investors, but it was extremely risky: they were betting that they'd find a bigger sucker to buy Skype from them for more than they paid for it. They were lucky: they found a big sucker. But they could have been very unlucky too, and had to sell it for much less. It's a lot like the mortgage boom and meltdown: some people got really lucky and sold their houses right at the peak to some sucker, and others held on to their houses for a little too long and suddenly there weren't any suckers left to buy their houses for more than they owed. Just like in a game of Musical Chairs, at some point someone's going to get screwed, and you don't want to be that person.
Not necessarily. The problem with "investing" is that the fundamental rule of valuation is that a thing is worth whatever you can con some sucker into paying for it. So some things have pretty stable values, because lots and lots of people are willing to pay a certain price, and other things have unstable values, like Skype, because only a few entities are willing to pay a lot for it.
Skype has cost MS a ton of money, but their financials don't look very good. They've only recently even turned a profit, and it's tiny compared to what MS just paid for them. The only way this'll turn out well for MS is if they somehow use this acquisition to make more profit on their other products and services. Otherwise, it'll turn out like Zune: lots of money invested and mostly wasted because there wasn't enough profit in it.
Sure, this turned out really well for that group of investors, but it was extremely risky: they were betting that they'd find a bigger sucker to buy Skype from them for more than they paid for it. They were lucky: they found a big sucker. But they could have been very unlucky too, and had to sell it for much less. It's a lot like the mortgage boom and meltdown: some people got really lucky and sold their houses right at the peak to some sucker, and others held on to their houses for a little too long and suddenly there weren't any suckers left to buy their houses for more than they owed. Just like in a game of Musical Chairs, at some point someone's going to get screwed, and you don't want to be that person.
@Grish -
There is more to a company's value than profits. For example -- Cisco is in the process of shutting down it's Flip video unit. Flip made money and was getting ready to introduce new (and great) products.
But -- Cisco really isn't a consumer camcorder company. They are, however, a video conferencing company and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if some of that Flip technology finds its way into other Cisco products.
Ditto for Microsoft/Skype. Wonder what the future of videoconferencing for Windows mobile phones holds?
There is more to a company's value than profits. For example -- Cisco is in the process of shutting down it's Flip video unit. Flip made money and was getting ready to introduce new (and great) products.
But -- Cisco really isn't a consumer camcorder company. They are, however, a video conferencing company and it wouldn't surprise me in the least if some of that Flip technology finds its way into other Cisco products.
Ditto for Microsoft/Skype. Wonder what the future of videoconferencing for Windows mobile phones holds?
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it was all planned by Google as a way of spending MS's cash horde needlessly ... brilliant or a viper to bite someone's behind later?
This MS shill is biased, hence, is uncertain of the outcome at this juncture, but you can bet on which entity I am backing.
As always,
YBT