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GNOME Shell -the UI revolution is well under way

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Linux User & Developer magazine; By Jos Poortvliet
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openSUSE community manager Jos discusses the paradigm shift in UIs brought on my the mobile computing revolution…

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Revolution? I'd say misplaced Iconoclasm...

[...]but for us mere mortals, Facebook, Gmail, iPhones and Android have radically changed what we expect from our UIs

I'm a mere mortal and I cannot stress how wrong this assumption is. I expect my UI to give me access to my stuff in the least amount of actions. Pure Gnome 3 Shell is not delivering that (mouse, view switch, mouse, etc.). Shell with MGSE (Thank You Linux Mint!) does, although it still is a step back from Gnome 2.

Where we used to open a file manager and navigate to folder with ten files, we now have our data online.

I doubt this is the truth. Maybe a few have jumped into the Cloud, but the majority have their files (legally obtained or not) on their harddrives. Where are the reports that the sales of MS Office have plummeted dramatically, because everybody and his dog is now using Google docs? It might be true that a subset of the computing populace puts the minutiae of their uninteresting lives on Facebook, but to do that they didn't need a completely wrecked desktop experience. The browser was and is interface enough for the destruction of personal privacy.

Bringing these concepts to the desktop just makes sense.

No it doesn't. A desktop OS is not an extension of the Internet. The Internet is just a network between desktops and servers. I personally don't need a "Me menu". Chat in my corner of the world is dead, so I don't see a need for an integrated chat solution. Facebook and Hyves have all but killed one on one communication via chat programs. It is all unidirectional publication now. Read what others think makes them look cool in the world.

And sharing files is something which should be as seamless as possible.

The RIAA, MPAA, BUMA, BREIN, STEMRA, BAF, BSA and a lot of other X letter agencies beg to differ.

While Xfce might offer a familiar interface, it doesn’t offer the most efficient UI any more.

Says who? Why did Linux Mint get so much acclaim for bringing back the menu, panel and window list to Gnome Shell? XFCE at least changes incrementally and so far only for the better.

As a final note I should stress that I don’t think change for the sake of it is good. If reality changes, however, you have to be prepared to change with it.

Well, call me a stick in the mud, but I've not seen any desktop computers change into MID's overnight and worse than that, I don't see Gnome 3 and KDE Plasma Active One or Unity making any inroads on these new fangled, mobile computing devices. Build it and they will come, doesn't work here. It will take active pushing to get it there and I don't see the pushing.

The long-term net result should be high productivity with a short-term hump in the road as we get accustomed to these new ways.

A tablet interface on a non-tablet machine is not increasing productivity. Putting tractor wheels on a city car doesn't make a new workhorse. The only major desktop that didn't go insane is KDE. They still have a traditional desktop for a traditional desktop machine. It's just too bad that the pain of the KDE 4.0 rewrite lasted a few years, before they were back with a usable DE.

Gnome 3 Shell and Unity are of their rocker. The sooner they fall to Earth, the better. The base technology in Gnome 3 is sound, it's just that the takes on the "desktop" metaphor from the Gnome team and Canonical is wacky.

Another reason to be glad I dumped openSUSE

SUSE used to be the best KDE distro around, years ago. But then they got bought out by Novell, then Novell signed that evil patent agreement with MS, bought up Ximian and switched to Mono and GNOME, and now they're trumpeting the horn for this dumbed-down UI garbage that's all the rage now. The Linux world will be better off when SUSE is dead and buried.
Oh, c'mon,... There's room at the Linux table, even for turn-coat traitor, RedHat wannabes like SuSE... We can just ignore them... we don't even have to pass the the salt or the gravy boat...
SuSE and Mandrake (now Mandriva) use to be great KDE distros. SuSE was a very big contributor to KDE.

Thankfully debian and Slackware are still good.

That Novell deal relly cut the heart out of SuSE.
Novell is gone and, honestly, I'm not at all sure it really affected openSUSE. openSUSE is still around and last I checked it supports BOTH KDE and GNOME. You guys don't like openSUSE? Fine, but this thread is over the top to say the least.
Fedora supports KDE too, but no one in their right mind would bother with it because it receives zero attention from the distro maintainers. As we can see here, openSUSE obviously doesn't care about KDE either, and is more interested in pushing the new dumbed-down UIs, so if you're a KDE user, there's no reason to bother with openSUSE either; you should instead look for a distro that supports it.
I was waxing nostalgic for the late 90's.
From what I hear, openSUSE is trying to put all the major DEs on equal footing (KDE, GNOME, LXDE, Xfce).
@Steve, you're right, and Fedora also supports KDE well nowadays because RHEL supports KDE as an alternative to GNOME. I don't know what it is with all the hating today. Clearly the holidays make some people grumpy.
I don't have any experience with alternate desktops in openSUSE, but I can say that the LXDE and Xfce spins of Fedora are very full-featured. Best Xfce desktop I ever used -- Fedora 13.
KDE on openSUSE 12.1 with Tumbleweed repositories giving me constant updates is beautiful on my laptop. No complaints about it here. Last time I installed it, KDE was still the default, and openSUSE's version of KDE is still heavily configured, with lots of great integrated YaST2 tools for KDE.
Very happy with kubuntu these days...
I remain happy with Xfce on both SalixOS and Vector Linux.

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