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You know what I’m excited about? Windows 8.
It seems that taking cheap shots at Windows 8 is now a national pastime–especially among us curmudgeonly, nay-saying techno journalist types. It’s what we do. It sells copy to be negative and bust on new stuff. I’ts also fun to mess with Microsoft a little bit because a lot of us remember Windows Me and Windows Vista and the havoc that they continue to wreak on systems and nervous systems around the world. I’ve written about disliking Windows 8 too, but, to tell you the truth, I’m excited about the eventual arrival of Windows 8. Why? Because it’s so cool. |
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Comments (31)
I'm not excited, but I am intrigued.
@dinotrac,
I think it would be even more interesting AND exciting (AND useful!) once FOSS devs manage to release patent-UNencumbered GPL-workaround projects substituting the best "things on/for" Windows 8.
2c
I think it would be even more interesting AND exciting (AND useful!) once FOSS devs manage to release patent-UNencumbered GPL-workaround projects substituting the best "things on/for" Windows 8.
2c
Tail chasing
M$ is following Ubuntu's Unity lead in the next GUI revolution. Whether that is over a cliff or not is another question.
Yeah, that remains to be seen. KH is fairly gushing over Win8 with plenty of hyperbole thrown in.
I don't know - they do have the luxury of focus groups and junk, but this smacks of change merely for change's sake. I can't see why this huge GUI overhaul to mimic a tablet UI is necessary except to combine them both for expedience and money.
I'll keep my KDE4, ty.
I don't know - they do have the luxury of focus groups and junk, but this smacks of change merely for change's sake. I can't see why this huge GUI overhaul to mimic a tablet UI is necessary except to combine them both for expedience and money.
I'll keep my KDE4, ty.
Gnome had the luxury of focus groups and usability studies too, and look where it got them: you can't even turn off your friggin' computer without some secret key combination, and everything useful for productivity is hidden or removed to "reduce clutter" and "eliminate confusion".
@all, maybe so, but...
If they are really are going to be HTML5/CSS3/javascript centric, it opens up a lot of possibilities for some of us who do not develop things for Windows.
If they are really are going to be HTML5/CSS3/javascript centric, it opens up a lot of possibilities for some of us who do not develop things for Windows.
People are already complaining about DEs being too "heavyweight", needing too many resources, etc. Making them all glorified web browsers by using HTML5/CSS/Javascript is just going to make them even slower. C++ or a similar compiled language (compiled to native machine code, not to bytecode like Java) is the proper language for this application.
Maybe the desktop and web browser will merge and become??? Chromebook?
@jhansonxi: or Active Desktop.
@Khamul
I had read those focus groups were relatively small in comparison to the amount of people using Gnome. Anyone have info on how many people were in those groups?
kingttx
Judging from the egg laid I suspect the focus group was a bunch of Havoc Pennington's buddies. They wreaked havoc (a funny joke).
Judging from the egg laid I suspect the focus group was a bunch of Havoc Pennington's buddies. They wreaked havoc (a funny joke).
Focus groups are notoriously variable, inconsistent and difficult to replicate, and notoriously sensitive to very trivial, irrelevant and often even external factors Even the experts find it difficult to make them produce meaningful, reliable results -- or even substantially similar results from one session to the next. Over-reliance on a single or a few, let alone rather casual, focus-group sessions is a recipe for delusion.
I consider the source of the article, which makes it worthless and meaningless drivel.
As far as i'm concerned he may as well titled it 'Click Bait' so I didn't bother, mind you stopped bothering with Ken's stuff a long time ago. I'm almost certain I've not missed anything important.
@BernardSwiss
Aye, hence my question if anyone had what kinds and sizes of groups Gnome used for useability testing. I swear they gave the participants tablets, they were happy with that UI, so they decided to extend that to the desktop.
Bleh!
Bleh!
This has nothing to do with GNU/Linux and Free/OS Software
I read TFA, and I don't see anything in it that's about GNU/Linux and Free/Open Source Software, other than the fact that Ken mentions that he uses Windows, Mac and Linux.
The implication is the effect that Win8 will have on FOSS... Ken is just saying that he doesn't care, that it'll be fun to play with.
Quoting:The implication is the effect that Win8 will have on FOSS...
That seems like a really low standard for including a Windows 8 article on this site -- but then we all know that Ken always meets low standards.
Don't know about you, but the last I looked, the name of this site was lxer, not lx, implying it's directed at those "ers', ie, people using, doing stuff with, and interested in Linux. As one of those people, I am interested in what's going on in the Windows world. Not enough to spend time there, but nice to stay caught up on the big stuff -- especially if it will help me take the things I do in FOSS land and make a little money.
I use Linux and I recently rescued an abandoned dog in a nearby park -- maybe I should submit that story to this site.
> I use Linux and I recently rescued an abandoned dog in a nearby park -- maybe I should submit that story to this site.
Only if you include pictures. Of course, you could always throw in something about an open source veterinarian application and you'd be golden.
Only if you include pictures. Of course, you could always throw in something about an open source veterinarian application and you'd be golden.
Here you go - pictures and video:
http://www.computerbob.com/wp/bud-finds-his-forever-home.php
No open source vet apps, but I used Linux to publish all of that. ;)
http://www.computerbob.com/wp/bud-finds-his-forever-home.php
No open source vet apps, but I used Linux to publish all of that. ;)
There you go,... It's now Linux related...
> Only if you include pictures. Of course, you could always throw in something about an open source veterinarian application and you'd be golden.
You could say the same for a recipe manager like Gourmet (http://grecipe-manager.sourceforge.net). :D
You could say the same for a recipe manager like Gourmet (http://grecipe-manager.sourceforge.net). :D
Stray dog recipes? On Linux?
I doubt TC will be doing that cookbook...
I doubt TC will be doing that cookbook...
"It's a cookbook!!!!"
(I'm sure that at least some of you old timers remember that old TZ episode -- I think it was called "To Serve Man")
(I'm sure that at least some of you old timers remember that old TZ episode -- I think it was called "To Serve Man")
That wasn't Twilight Zone, that was Outer Limits.
Normally I'm very liberal in my idea of what should appear on LXer, and the word "linux" is mentioned in passing ...
But I don't post everything I write to LXer. It has to relate to the topic at hand (free software and related hardware, and the use thereof).
I understand the temptation to post any tech-related story to LXer, but in this case Ken should have held up and not posted this story, in my opinion.
Ken, just so you know, I do follow your writing, and I'm glad to see this article nonetheless. It doesn't need to be linked here, though.
But I don't post everything I write to LXer. It has to relate to the topic at hand (free software and related hardware, and the use thereof).
I understand the temptation to post any tech-related story to LXer, but in this case Ken should have held up and not posted this story, in my opinion.
Ken, just so you know, I do follow your writing, and I'm glad to see this article nonetheless. It doesn't need to be linked here, though.
Don't bother, ComBob, I looked it up. You are correct, it was a TZ.
Now, about those read-write cycle problems with brains....
Now, about those read-write cycle problems with brains....
Dead puppies aren't much fun.
But Bud is a whole lot of fun -- he's about the most joyful and loving dog I've ever met. Grateful for every minute of life, and a perfect example of "one man's trash is another man's treasure."
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HTML5 and CSS (and, of course, javascript) are weighing pretty heavily on me these days - and, as I understand, they are first-class citizens on the Windows 8 desktop.
That might allow me to do things on/for Windows that I've never been able to/had resources for before. As somebody who needs to make a living, that's pretty interesting even if it's not exciting.