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The Best, Against The Wind

Though the KDE desktop has a few obvious advantages over Unity, Kubuntu has always played second fiddle (maybe third) to Shuttleworth’s baby, Ubuntu. While the distro has received critcism and praise in equal parts, one thing has never change. Commitment.

The Best, Against The Wind

Though the KDE desktop has a few obvious advantages over Unity, Kubuntu has always played second fiddle (maybe third) to Shuttleworth’s baby, Ubuntu. While the distro has received critcism and praise in equal parts, one thing has never change. Commitment.

KDE, and to a similar degree, Kubuntu, have both been on the receiving end of a few limiting factors and fables. Firstly, the myth that OpenSuse is a superior KDE distribution, or even maybe the ‘best’. Secondly, Kubuntu is the worst KDE distribution. Regardless of the fact that OpenSuse’s KDE quality is baseless and unfounded, and in the face of heat from the FOSS community that the distribution is not up to par, the team pushes on. Even after having their food stamp card revoked by Canonical, the team still manages to push forward.

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9 earlier comments in the full thread.

dinotrac ·
@fettoosh -

Ok, I'm impressed by your tenacity:

Quoting: I have been using KDE on two Distros, Suse since 1997


Considering that the project didn't even get started til late in 1996, that's a pretty early adapter, and well before me. I didn't start using it until the winter of '98, though I used it on Debian, not SuSE. As a SuSE user, you were spared the horsezit antics of the Debian team wrt QT licensing and its effect on the stability of KDE packages, so you made a better choice than I did.

I used to love KDE and still miss it. XFCE is nice and all, but it isn't the same. But then, these days, neither is KDE.



gus3 ·
Neither is FVWM.

But I couldn't say anything about Sawfish, since I learned Lisp just a couple years ago.
Fettoosh ·
Quoting:Considering that the project didn't even get started til late in 1996 ...


To tell you the truth, I wasn't sure whether it was 1997 or 98, I remember it was fairly new when I tried it right after I tried Red Hat Linux 5.0, which I believe it was in 1996. The funny think is that I had never heard of Suse and at one time we were invited to dinner at a friend's who is a dentist, yes a dentist who was fiddling with Linux at that time. He gave me a copy and after I tried it, I never looked back at Gnome except for testing it.

Quoting:I used to love KDE and still miss it.


I say let the bygone be gone and give it a try, It is pretty good now and the developers are maturing business wise. :-) One of these days you will be using the Spark.



tracyanne ·
Quoting:One of these days you will be using the Spark.


I have 2 on order.
tracyanne ·
Here's one for the KDE gurus, I can't add passwords via Kwalletmanager.

I'll amend that. I can when I first create a wallet, but after I've closed it and reopened it I can't.
Fettoosh ·
Quoting:I can't add passwords via Kwalletmanager.


The password you set when creating a wallet is to access the whole wallet and to grant an application access to a wallet to set or get a password. Application passwords are supposed to be set by the application it self. The only thing you can do about an application password is to delete it and have the application reset it as I understand it from the Docs.

Access Control

I hope I answered your question. KDE is so diverse I don't consider my self a guru yet. I mostly use what I need and Kwallet is one that I don't use that much. I really should since it is pretty and helpful in streamlining access to many applications/sites that require a password.



tracyanne ·
No, sorry Fettoosh, the wallet I can't add passwords to is my wallet, the one I created, and which contains the collection of passwords I use for accessing all sorts of websites and to simply store passwords I've given people when I install Linux for them. Not being able to add a new password to it is not optimal.
Fettoosh ·
Quoting: Not being able to add a new password to it is not optimal.


I see, you want to set up a wallet for others to use right off the bat and without having them to worry about it.

It might be something to suggest to the developers. I am sure they can add an option to turn password editing permission on/off.



tracyanne ·
Quoting:I see, you want to set up a wallet for others to use right off the bat and without having them to worry about it.


In a word... No

It's the wallet I've used for years to store passwords in. Now suddenly I can't add passwords to it, unless I create a new wallet and merge the old one to the new wallet.
ComputerBob ·
Quoting:I say let the bygone be gone and give it a try, It is pretty good now and the developers are maturing business wise. :-) One of these days you will be using the Spark.
Seigo, is that you?
Fettoosh ·
Quoting:Now suddenly I can't add passwords to it,


I would check to see if KWallet is activate by checking "System Settings" =>"acount Details" => "KDE Wallet" => "Enable the KDE wallet subsystem" is checked.

Also try Export then Import back

Fettoosh ·
Quoting:Seigo, is that you?


Wrong, you have one more chance CB, try again.

ComputerBob ·
Quoting:Wrong, you have one more chance CB, try again.
Oh, no -- I only have one more chance!

So you say that you're not Seigo, but you are someone who likes to have power over other people. Hmmm.... that doesn't really narrow it down much.
Fettoosh ·
Quoting:but you are someone who likes to have power over other people.


No, it's just a matter of three strikes and you are out. I am counting and you had two chances already. 1st you guessed Shutleworth, then Seigo, now who is it going to be next, BG or Jobs? If you believe in ghosts that is.



ComputerBob ·
What happens when I'm "out"?
Fettoosh ·
I just won't tell who I am.



ComputerBob ·
I can live with that.
DrGeoffrey ·
Quoting:I just won't tell who I am.


Talk about anti-climactic.

Fettoosh - Perhaps you should refer back to the original Star Trek series. Specifically, "You want out, you're out. All the way out. Know what I mean?"
ComputerBob ·
I think he's a middle-eastern style of food.
Fettoosh ·
Quoting:I think he's a middle-eastern style of food.


That is right and it is most delicious and healthier style of food. More specific, it is Lebanese. By the way, they do watch Star Trek too.

Lebanese Celebrities



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