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Valve's Newell: Windows 8 "catastrophe" driving Valve to embrace Linux

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ARS Technica; By Peter Bright
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Valve head—and one-time Microsoft employee—Gabe Newell has branded Windows 8 "a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space" at videogame conference Casual Connect in Seattle.

Valve head—and one-time Microsoft employee—Gabe Newell has branded Windows 8 "a catastrophe for everyone in the PC space" at videogame conference Casual Connect in Seattle. The Valve boss continued, saying that in the fallout from Windows 8, "we'll lose some of the top-tier PC/OEMs, who will exit the market. I think margins will be destroyed for a bunch of people."

He argued that one of the last remaining things keeping people away from Linux was the lack of games. Valve is working to bring Left 4 Dead 2 and other Steam titles to Linux in a move that Newell describes as "a hedging strategy." If his predictions about Windows 8 come true, he says "it will be good to have alternatives to hedge against that eventuality."

Newell's low opinion of Microsoft's next major operating system has been known for some time. When Michael Larabel of Phoronix visited Valve's Bellevue, WA, campus in April of this year to learn about the company's efforts to port Steam to Linux, he reported that Newell's "negativity for Windows 8 and the future of Microsoft was stunning."

Newell is not a disinterested third party. Valve makes money from the commission it takes on Steam sales. Windows 8, with its built-in Windows Store, challenges that revenue source. Features such as Xbox LIVE integration could make the Windows Store and Windows 8 a more appealing platform for gamers and developers alike than Steam.

However, the other aspect of the Store—the closed and controlled nature—also concerns him. He attributed Valve's success to the PC's open nature, saying that the company "wouldn't exist" without either the PC or "the openness of the platform." That openness is under threat, though. Newell argues that there is a "strong temptation" to close the platform, because the platform's developers "look at what they can accomplish when they limit the competitors’ access to the platform, and they say 'That's really exciting.'"

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Comments (7)

This has been a long time coming but it will make or break us, depending upon two entities. The Linux gaming folks and the video card manufacturers.

The Linux Community has a long history of apathy. They want specific things but when it comes time to get it done, often the challenge is answered by crickets chirping and an ominous howling wind. I think this move by Valve will act as the defining moment to find out whether Linux is indeed a vialble gaming platform, as Linux Users will define it. Simply, but rudely put, it's time for us to put up or shut up.

While there has been great wailing and gnashing of teeth over the quality of drivers for video cards, Nvidia has done a decent job of at least supporting us with blobs that work more often than not. Sure, the ideal thing would be for them to open their code but if they haven't done so by now, I doubt that they ever will. Maybe this act by Valve will at least spur Nvidia to fill in the gaps that exist with the newer cards. Valve does have some juice in that arena.

ATI/AMD for me, seems like a lost cause. How long has some of the driver source code been "open" now....what, going on 5 years? And still, performance on most cards is pathetic, if you can get fglrx to work at all. To their credit, I've just built a quad core AMD 64 640 with a Radeon 670 HD that works extremely well. Solus OS has written a script that downloads the drivers for you and when I did a reboot after installation, I fully expected the dreaded black screen telling me it couldn't boot with said driver.

It worked flawlessly, so maybe in some ATI areas, there is hope. But in the end, I think this is a defining moment for Linux, as a viable platform and the graphics card makers to step up. I have my own doubts on each front but given I am wrong way more than I am right, I can only hope.

"quality of drivers for video cards"

This is where Valve is being our friend (even if it is with their self-interest in mind). They flew some developers out to hook up with Intel, to see how they can work together to improve Intel open-source drivers, and have been in contact with the nouveau guys to ask how they can help. Valve have also identified a bug in the Nvidia driver, which has been fixed by Nvidia now. All 'n all Valve will do whatever they need to make this work for them.
Well, soon Win 8 will actually be out in the real world, and we'll see what actually happens...
In case you haven't read the news, Fedora's implementation of UEFI secure boot will preclude using the proprietary NVidia or ATI drivers. The system won't boot if they are installed. Considering the comparatively poor performance of the Open Source drivers that pretty much precludes gaming on Fedora.
But will Fedora insist you install/use Secure Boot, or just include the option?

(I got the impression that it's the latter)
Should they decide it is the the first option, I would wonder if Valve's move to port Steam to Linux will cause an exodus from Fedora. Not sure how many gamers use Fedora but it's a popular distro.

Adding anything to a distro that refuses the user access to software, proprietary or not, is stupid beyond belief.

To be honest, I use my share of proprietary software and found Fedora just too much work to bring it up to usable, but then again, that's just me. Fortunately, there are folks that saw a need in the market and created a respin called Fusion. I am running it on one of our machines at the shop and it's pretty nice. I would wonder if the move to implement UEFI spells the end of the Fusion Project.
@BernardSwiss: Fedora will install their shim bootloader and UEFI Secure Boot support by default. That means, even if there is an option to not include that during install (and it's not clear that there will be), the end user has to be knowledgeable enough to make that choice and has to have hardware that will work without that support. If they just drop in the CD/USB image and install they are in for a world of hurt, either in non-functional or poor graphics performance on a lot of hardware.

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