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Alice, the Turtle of the Modern Age

Posted by Ridcully on · 9 comments
Linux Journal; By Shawn Powers 		Mail this story
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Many of us grew up with LOGO, the kid-friendly programming language that guided a little turtle around a screen. Yes, it was simplistic. Yes, it taught only the very basics of programming concepts, but it also inspired an entire generation of programmers. The applications you run every day were written by people who steered a digital turtle around a screen in third grade.

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Comments (9)

JaseP ·
Having Java JDK as a dependency is going to be a non-starter for a lot of people (including me). I'd love my daughter to be able to play with this,... but "it ain't happenin'," with Oracle's Java having to be installed...
Jeff91 ·
Hope you boycott android as well if you are this anti-Java.

~Jeff
frankiej ·
The requirements simply specify a JDK is required, it doesn't say Oracle's specific implementation is required. Granted, the installation instructions detail how to download directly from Oracle, but I would assume Alice would run fine with a distro compiled OpenJDK.

Or is the concern that Java itself is required?
JaseP ·
The concern is Oracle's Java... (& Android (Davlik) =/= Java, by the way...)... I've seen it where Oracle's version was required & the given application would not run on substitutes...
tuxchick ·
Oracle's Java is icky and stupid. I'm not a fan of any Java apps because they're ugly and slow.
JaseP ·
Oracle itself is icky and stupid...
frankiej ·
Alice seems to run just fine without Oracle's Java installation. I was curious so I tried it out on Fedora 20 (64-bit) with OpenJDK. Everything seems to be running fine. It does seem to be an intriguing concept and I amused myself by having a penguin move around the screen saying "Slackware Rules!" :)

I tend to agree that Java client apps tend to look ugly. This one is actually better than most I have seen, but I haven't had to deal with very many client apps besides Eclipse.
JaseP ·
Maybe I'll give it a try with OpenJDK on Kubuntu 12.04...
mbaehrlxer ·
the difference between openjdk and sun/oracle's release of java was a problem up until java 6.

since version 7, openjdk is the official reference implementation for java: https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_t... https://jdk7.java.net/java-se-7-ri/

so just use the java 7 from your distribution and you'll be fine.

greetings, eMBee.

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