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Eu Parliament calls for better support of Open Source

Posted by dcparris on · 67 comments
Heise Online; By Stefan Krempl, Craig Morris
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In their recent plenary session, EU parliamentarians have voiced their support for an open information society. A text adopted by a majority of the EU parliament to implement the Lisbon program of the European Community under the motto "More research and innovation - investing for growth and employment" aims, among other things, to send a signal to the EU commission, which is constantly expanding intellectual property rights to the benefit of rights holders. The parliamentarians countered that the concept of "Open Innovation" is the best way to increase investments in research and development and attain the Lisbon goals. In these goals, the EU Plans to become the most competitive, dynamic economic area in the world by 2010. [Is it possible that Europe could become more "free" than the U.S.? - dcparris]

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dinotrac: >"a group of folks with no demonstrable redeeming qualities"

Well, they did give us Joe Cocker and Marty Feldman.
> I hear a beer goes north of 5 bucks!

I heard that over by grouch's place... There's an old hollow tree, just a little way from me Where you lay down a dollar or two If you hush up your mug, then they'll give you a jug Of that good old mountain dew

;-)
"I hear a beer goes north of 5 bucks!"

You've never been to Tokyo! NYC is freaking CHEAP in comparison.

I think the only political "group" who would not appreciate F/OSS would be die-hard corporatists, Big Business / Government "partnership" types. As Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) states, by voting consistently smaller-government, he aligns himself with the most radical of Republicans and the most radical of Democrats.

I'm not sure about the rest of the world, unfortunately. There has been a polarization (as seen in Mexico right now) and a coming together in the various political factions I read about. All parties in power, regardless of their professed alignments, seem to be all for more and more control.

Having Microsoft be an American corporation helps because anyone politically supporting F/OSS can do so from a nationalistic standpoint. "Stop sending our (yen, yuan, sheckles, drachma, pounds(sic), etc) to a American company!"

Gun owning and F/OSS? Self ownership and self reliance. Bleeding-heart liberal and F/OSS? Belief in the value of the individual over those damned mega-corporations. Protectionist and F/OSS? Local programmers. Libertarians? F/OSS is entirely voluntary. Tax resisters? No Microsoft Tax. Tin-hat conspiracy theorists? F/OSS can compiled from source.

I'm still trying to figure out what voice my post might have in KotH. Maybe Boomhauer...

I honestly think the mess in India can be directly ascribed to the fact that India was granted "independence", they didn't take it. Ok, Dale Gribble. Got it.
DC, I'm in North Carolina. I have seen, once, a jug of good old mountain dew, but have otherwise been unable to get my hands on any. I'm a slave to the Alcohol Control Board.
> DC, I'm in North Carolina. I have seen, once, a jug of good old mountain dew, but have otherwise been unable to get my hands on any. I'm a slave to the Alcohol Control Board.

Sorry to hear that. ;-) Kidding of course. With the State trooper and City Police couple living right across the street from me, I'm afraid I ain't much use myself. :-D When I lived up home, we had a friend who was running his still in his house (using the chimney) - in July, with the local boy sitting down the way on the corner. Guess he wasn't paying attention - or might have already got his jug filled.
> I have seen, once, a jug of good old mountain dew, but have otherwise been unable to get my hands on any.

http://www.mountainmoonshine.com/pages/258265/index.htm

They don't seem to let you mail order, unfortunately. If anyone one wants some, I may be able to get it for you.
The revenuers allow you to make up to 200 gallons of distilled spirits per year, for personal use. If you make more, you're assumed to be in it for commercial purposes and you have to do that tax thing or the jail thing.
> The revenuers allow you to make up to 200 gallons of distilled spirits per year, for personal use. If you make more, you're assumed to be in it for commercial purposes and you have to do that tax thing or the jail thing.

That's my understanding also, but the various states also have regulations covering alcohol, which may be more restrictive than the federal ones. So check your state laws before assuming you can make your own.
>So check your state laws before assuming you can make your own.

If you make no assumptions,however, it should be OK -- especially if you sample as you go.

Non-Editorial aside, a few months later:

No. 80652963: Hey guard, what's with this #@?!# moron in the next cell? He's always grinning like some kind of #!^&??!# little *&%@#!

Guard: Hey, ain't nothin' we can do about 9 (he is on a first name basis with the prisoner in the next cell). It's the squeezin's, I tell ya. It's the squeezin's.
200 gallons for PERSONAL use?? Like what, bathing in it? Never waking up? Stripping paint? Keeping the entire family on the brink of cirrhosis? sheeesh
Heck, you can run your car on it tuxchick :)
NononoNONONONONO! It's 200 gallons of WINE or BEER for personal consumption.

Distilling *AT*ALL* is verboten without a license from the Fed.Gov. Period, absolutely. Even leaving a barrel of apple cider outside in winter to freeze the water and tapping it for the alcohol is consider FREEZE DISTILLING too, and is prosecuted worse than murder.

Seriously, Do Not Distill! Even for yourself! Check the law first, I'm not joking. I checked into all the rules when I was making my own mead (fermenting honey).
>I checked into all the rules when I was making my own mead (fermenting honey).

You can call me D, or you can call me P, but ya doesn't have to call me honey.
Only outlaws will have mead.
>Only outlaws will have mead.

Which they'll need because of the in-laws.
> 200 gallons for PERSONAL use?? Like what, bathing in it? Never waking up? Stripping paint? Keeping the entire family on the brink of cirrhosis? sheeesh

It's purely for medicinal purposes. ;-) Well, o.k., it doubles as an explosive when you start feudin' with them Hatfields.

I like the Moonshine distillery - will have to make a run to Morgantown next time I'm up to visit Pa. He lives just about 1.5 or 2 hours South of there.

Dino: >Which they'll need because of the in-laws.

Especially if you're the in-law. ;-)
> is prosecuted worse than murder

Yep, that's our Gov, for sure....
Bob_Robertson:

I had to check up on that. The bloat of regulation is absolutely amazing. Check out just "Part 19--DISTILLED SPIRITS PLANTS", "[Revised as of April 1, 1997]":

http://www.ttb.gov/alcohol/info/faq/subpages/27cfrpart019.ht...

As the FAQ at http://www.ttb.gov/alcohol/info/faq/genalcohol.htm says, "There are numerous requirements that must be met that make it impractical to produce spirits for personal or beverage use."

What's the country coming to?
"What's the country coming to?"

Now you get why I'm an anarcho-capitalist. I have been shown nothing, absolutely nothing, that a government can do that private efforts by interested individuals does not do as well, and as far as I can tell always better.

http://www.mises.org/
I thought at first that the revision date meant that the feds had developed a sense of humor, but it seems they consider a 'still to be a major environmental hazard.

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