The GNU Hurd

> I don't see anything incorrect or debatable in the article.

Well, it would help if English were the writer's primary language. Incorrect, I'll grant (excpet for the GNU/Linux stuff), but I'd say there are number of points which are debatable. I'd have to reread the article to pick them out though, which I'd rather not do. It was too painful the first time.

TC -

Actually, I may have posted that to the wrong article!!! I get groggy in the morning. I read one that more or less gave the history of Linux as "Stallman this, Stallman that, and I think some Finnish kid did something, too."

Quoting:"You mean like journalists"

dino,

Those are analysts writing fiction. Journalists are the ones that cut and paste from company press releases.

At least in the technical press.

:)

>At least in the technical press.

Nah, I'm thinking bigger than that -- the real masters of modern fiction: The New York Times, Salon, CNN, etc.

eep double post. all gone now.

Here dino, have some coffee. I make it strong enough to stand up a spoon. If that doesn't wake you all the way up nothing will.

I doubt that my cynicism towards journalism is as much as yours, but I do like how the "pros" are all excited over grubby ole bloggers invading their turf. A crying shame when the amateurs outperform the pros. Something Must Be Done! Preferably something that does not involve the supposed pros doing a better job. :P

> Something Must Be Done! Preferably something that does not involve the supposed pros doing a better job. :P

Vested interests calling on the power of government to make their market captive.

It would be funny, in a sad way, if it weren't so awfully _repetitive_.

>Preferably something that does not involve the supposed pros doing a better job. :P

No kidding. Have you ever watched any of those "Reporters' Town Hall" doodads they do from time to time?

There will be a minor mea culpa here and there, an earnest declaration that "we could do better", but, in the end, the real problem will be that people don't understand what journalism is.

Personally, I think the problem for journalists is that we do.

> You're referring to the food, right?

Not really. To a drink for every bridge you can traverse in Utrecht. :-)

>Not really. To a drink for every bridge you can traverse in Utrecht. :-)

Lemme see...

I don't know how many bridges that is... But doesn't a canal run through town?

That ought to make for enough bridges to get pretty happy, eh?

> I don't know how many bridges that is...

Public bridges in the center : 41 Private bridges in the center : about the same

> But doesn't a canal run through town?

Two.

> That ought to make for enough bridges to get pretty happy, eh?

Like tuxchick said : "Here dino, have some coffee".

>Like tuxchick said : "Here dino, have some coffee".

No...No...I'm fine.

I keep this odd feeling, though.

I think I was supposed to fly into Schiphol and grab a train out...but... I have this strange floaty feeling... I'm looking up at a grey sky as I float along under bridge after bridge after bridge after bridge...

and I've got to tell you...

the water...ummm...isn't pleasant.

I see that there is a version of Debian out there with some kind of Hurd/Mach kernel. Anybody ever run it?

Must be Debian GNU/Hurd. If I've the time and it has a LiveCD, I will test it.

Quoting:I think I was supposed to fly into Schiphol and grab a train out...but... I have this strange floaty feeling... I'm looking up at a grey sky as I float along under bridge after bridge after bridge after bridge...

Huh, I don't understand. Dutch Railways used to deploy buses if the rails are blocked? Well, then again, the name 'Schiphol' says it all (if you know what it means).

>if you know what it means

I don't. I just know that it's humongaloid and is the only place I've ever caught a plane into or out of the Netherlands.

By the way -- public transit in the Netherlands works very well. Do they still do those strippenkarts (or however it's spelled) on the trams?

I remember tram tickets being an honor system with the police checking randomly and issuing tickets (not the kind for a seat) to those who tried to sneak on free.

Yes, they still use that. But there is a lot of talk about switching to a chip-card based system that will work universally across all public transportation. The Dutch privacy organisations are trying to block that though because the government is trying to gather a lot more data then just whether you bought a ticket or not. They were recently nominated for a "Big Brother" award.

>They were recently nominated for a "Big Brother" award.

That would be impressive given the extent to which London is covered by television cameras. For that matter, my local city of Chicago is deploying cameras faster than the Enterprise could hit warp speed.

Too hand with competition like that takes some serious intrusiveness.

The Big Brother awards are a Dutch "award" show, so that explains why London et. al. weren't nominated.

"Schiphol" == "ship's grave" where the sea was very shallow before the dikes were built

"Schiphol" == "ship's grave" where the sea was very shallow before the dikes were built

Glad I didn't know that when I was using the airport. Shivers.