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Has GNOME finally killed off KDE in the Ubuntu interface wars?
The leader of the Ubuntu Desktop team at Canonical, Scott James Remnant, has admitted that KDE 4 will not be stable enough to support for the term of the release. Posting to the ubuntu.com mailing list, Remnant states “I've not seen anybody who believes that this would be the case; a long-term supported release would have to be based on the stable KDE 3.5 series.” |
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drivel, dribble, either way it's poo
> But hey, as long as we're fantasizing, let's throw in Fluxbox, Enlightenment, and XFCE too- just whirl 'em all together in a big magic blender.
And then you'd get Compiz Fusion.
(Which, on my big powerful machine, is nothing but broken...)
And then you'd get Compiz Fusion.
(Which, on my big powerful machine, is nothing but broken...)
Quoting:Where is the death scene?
I THINK it goes like this: When someone wants Ubuntu, [s]he wants it with The Support. Hence they want LTS. But LTS has GNOME so they get GNOME. Now remember that Ubuntu == Linux => KDE dies. Every link of that chain is bogus, but whatever... ;)
LTS is only a very small amount of Ubuntu installs (the enterprise users)... so I am not sure why this is a problem.
RHEL (paid) and CentOS (free) have KDE support in the currently released version 5 through March 31st, 2014 ... maybe KDE enterprise users should look there.
RHEL (paid) and CentOS (free) have KDE support in the currently released version 5 through March 31st, 2014 ... maybe KDE enterprise users should look there.
>It's like saying "let's blend the best features of a squid and a camel in an exciting new hybrid!"
Mmmm. Squamel. Just imagine tearing into a great big dish of squalimari.
Mmmm. Squamel. Just imagine tearing into a great big dish of squalimari.
jezuch your right. If Ubuntu takes over the world (Like they want to) then they will cary Gnome along with it. But personally I don't think Ubuntu is as popular as everyone thinks it is. A lot of times I find myself finding posts in their forums helpful to my distribution. So maybe all those site hits aren't from people downloading it?
Dino, out here in redneck-land we like to dip our squalimari in hayoli sauce.
No!
Gnome has not killed off KDE because from a new user's stand point it's easier to learn KDE then Gnome. Well at least thats what my sample of people said that I asked. I'm converting people to Linux and I get a lot less of them being scared of something they are not use too with KDE.
If Ultumix gets off the ground soon and really takes off KDE will be the way of the noob. Gnome may be great for you but not for me. I'm not saying I'm a noob. I'm saying I don't like Gnome either. I'm not a Mac Guy.
It's kind of like asking that. Are you a Gnome/Mac guy or a Windows/KDE guy?
It really boils down to that. But of course I could just be having one of my mental spasms again.
If Ultumix gets off the ground soon and really takes off KDE will be the way of the noob. Gnome may be great for you but not for me. I'm not saying I'm a noob. I'm saying I don't like Gnome either. I'm not a Mac Guy.
It's kind of like asking that. Are you a Gnome/Mac guy or a Windows/KDE guy?
It really boils down to that. But of course I could just be having one of my mental spasms again.
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I really really really really really really really really really (quick breath) really really really really really really really really really hate this kind of dopey "analysis." Where is the death scene? Where's the bit where Gnome stomps the life out of KDE, roasts its poor dead carcass over a fire, and gnaws it down to the bones? It makes me cry when Enderle looks smart in comparison.
Canonical made this decision, and it's in the first paragraph of the cited message:
This is a bit controversial, as some folks think that supporting 3.5 in Hardy LTS wouldn't be all that hard, since LTS = security fixes only, no bugfixes or updates. (I think the LTS releases are useless anyway- 3 years of no updates or bugfixes? I'll stick with Real Debian Stable; they actually fix things.)
Interestingly, the mailing list post cited by the article doesn't support the author's claims of KDE doom, but his bias is clear:
There's the ultimate strawman for propping up that tired old "Let's make Linux as lame as Mac and Windoze": The General Public, aka "the average user." No such beast exists, except in the minds of columnists who have nothing else to support their positions. And there are no plans at all to create a single interface for Ubuntu. What would you call Unified Ubuntu, U-Buntu? Unbuntu? Unibuntu?
Reminds me of when Red Hat was making such a big deal out of Bluecurve, which supposed to blend the best of Gnome and KDE, but was really just a color scheme. You can't blend KDE and Gnome- they're based on two completely different, incompatible toolkits. KDE is made of Qt, which is based on C++. Gnome is GTK-based, which is C. It's like saying "let's blend the best features of a squid and a camel in an exciting new hybrid!" But hey, as long as we're fantasizing, let's throw in Fluxbox, Enlightenment, and XFCE too- just whirl 'em all together in a big magic blender.