I don't know what they've done to it

Story: KDE4 apps: digiKamTotal Replies: 13
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tracyanne

Nov 02, 2008
6:07 PM EDT
But on every computer I've installed it on so far (Mandriva 2009.0 with KDE 3.5.10) digikam chokes.

While it is able to actually recognise a camera that it also had no trouble recognising in earlier versions, it's utterly unable to read the camera's fielsystem. On my computer the progress bar, for scanning the camera filesystem, gets to 40% and stops the message that says "scanning camera for photos" changes to "done", but no images are displayed. I can on the other hand copy the image files from the camera by access the camera as a USB device from the filesystem.

A new option under "Digital Cameras" on the menu displays a generic USB Image handling device. Attepting to access that causes digikam to crash.

When I copy the image files from the camera, via the filemanager, to a directory under the photo alum directory digikam is unable to sense there is a new directory, as it used to be able to do, and doing a refresh or sync photo database doesn't locate the new images either.
rijelkentaurus

Nov 03, 2008
2:16 PM EDT
I'll test mine out tonight. I don't normally connect the camera, so this would have escaped my attention, as I normally remove the flash disk from the camera and stick in the laptop. But I have a cable, and will try my hand at this tonight. What kind of camera do you have?
herzeleid

Nov 03, 2008
3:32 PM EDT
Same here, I bought a card reader. It saves me the frustration of trying to talk to brain-dead cameras, by cutting out the middleman and reading the photos directly from the card. I find that camera I/O is hit and miss, but the memory card always works.
techiem2

Nov 03, 2008
3:39 PM EDT
ditto. There's also fact that my camera's internal USB interface is USB1 while my card reader is USB2. It makes a tad of a difference when you're copying 4GB of RAWs over......
tuxchick

Nov 03, 2008
4:04 PM EDT
My expensive Canon DSLR that I bought a couple years ago had USB 1. Other cameras and digital recorders that I've owned almost always had some bizarre USB 1 + freako proprietary transfer protocol hacks. There's that proprietary innovation again! I also use card readers, they always work better.
tracyanne

Nov 03, 2008
4:08 PM EDT
I've had absolutely no problems with cameras on Mandriva Linux and Digikam in the past, in fact until I installed 2009.0 I could guarantee that almost any arbitrary camera would be recognised and mounted automagically and images uploaded/downloaded to/from it.
DiBosco

Nov 03, 2008
4:10 PM EDT
TC, most cameras I have come across allow you to put them into a mode where they become normal bulk transfer devices and you can just see them as an external drive. Even a horrible old Sony camera I used to have you could do that and Sony are one of the worst for proprietary stuff like that. It did boot in "Sony" mode, but it was reasonably straightforward to change it. Maybe I've just been lucky. The Nikon DSLR works very nicely with Linux with no tinkering I am happy to say.

I always just plug my camera(s) in and cut and paste them into a local directory to view them with Gwenview. I guess there must be an advantage to digikam, but I never worked out what it was. :~)
ColonelPanik

Nov 03, 2008
4:16 PM EDT
My Canon works in Ubuntu 8.10 My Canon does not work in PCLOS My Sony works on any distro My Canon works on PCLOS on my wife's laptop.

Maybe it is the hardware and not the OS or app?
tuxchick

Nov 03, 2008
4:19 PM EDT
Another advantage to a card reader is it's small, lightweight, and I can slap a another storage card into my camera or recorder without having to wait.
tracyanne

Nov 03, 2008
5:23 PM EDT
I'm finding Mandriva Linux 2009.0 a huge let down after 2008.1. There are just so many little things that either don't work properly, like digikam (and I know that's not necessarily Mandriva) or don't work at all.

I'm about to roll my partner back to 2008.1, while I look around to see what will provide me with some decent functionality. If I can't find anything I'm happy with, I'll stay with 2008.1 until Mandriva with KDE4 is mature.

number6x

Nov 03, 2008
6:17 PM EDT
TA, Stick with 2008.1 for a while as your main OS.

keep an install of 2009 around and file bug reports. Start threads on the forum on your problems

You are probably doing all this already, but don't lose faith!

Was it Mandrake 7 or so that everyone hated. I forget. But there was a version that had a lot of problems in the Mandrake days. They worked through it.

They'll get it right. Until then. 2008.1 works
rijelkentaurus

Nov 03, 2008
6:40 PM EDT
I personally have been pleasantly surprised by 2009, and I am even running KDE4 now and learning to love it. Too bad you're having issues, but I guess nothing works for everyone. I'd say rolling back is probably the best decision in this case.
DiBosco

Nov 03, 2008
8:02 PM EDT
I've stuck with 2008.1 for the moment apart from my spare machine. First time I haven't upgraded since 2007.0, although previous to that I stuck with Mandrake 10.0 for a long old time.

There are some things that are impressive with 2009: boot speed is better and network speed is a lot faster, but in general it's not quite as solid as 2008.1. I must say though it has improved already with some of the updates and am sure by 2009.1 it will be a great deal better.
tracyanne

Nov 06, 2008
7:29 AM EDT
Well it looks like I'll be staying with MDV 2008.1. I had a really good look at Ubuntu and Mint and Mepis over the last few day, while I've been off the air. Changed to a new ISP better service, Business class and ADSL 2+ up from ADSL 1, with 80 Gig Down no shaping, and no metering on uploads, for only a few dollars more than public class service i had with the previous ISP, and discovered that my ADSL 2+ modem was faulty, it worked fin on ADSL 1 but died on the upgrade.

Anyway after all the testing I decided that MDV 2008.1 is the best choice, everything just works - well Pulse Audio is still an issue on, but I can live with that, just disable it, and all the nice ease of use features are there, and Konqueror has all the functionality that's missing from Dolphin. MDV 2008.1 really is the best release of Mandriva, and still head and shoulders above everything else I've tried.

My partner disliked 2009.0 and the KDE4 desktop so much she was begging me to roll her back. The final straw for me was the fact that 2009.0 failed to recognise our digital camera on either of our laptops and not on the desktop machine I've been setting up for a new Linux user, either. Yet in each case installing any of the other distros the camera was recognised and mounted with out any drama, Ubuntu was almost instant in displaying a mount window.

2009.0 does have some really nice points, unfortunately they are marred by the bugs. Recovery from suspend to RAM takes about 3 seconds on my laptop, from Suspend to Disk only a few seconds longer. Boot times are also really fast (I didn't time them but they seem considerably faster than 2008.1, which I think is pretty fast). KDE4 does look nice, but nice looks, and fast boot times, don't compensate for the missing functionality or the bugs. Pulse Audio is still problematic on the laptops I've installed it on, it seems to work fine on the Desktop machine I mentioned.

Anyway that's where I'm currently at, I'll wait for 2009.1, and see what it's like, if I'm still not happy, I'll look around at the other distros again to see if there is anything I can change to without causing my partner too many issues.

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