Exciting times
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| penguinist May 19, 2012 9:23 AM EDT |
So you plug this thing in your TV's hdmi input and plug a wifi nubbin into the usb port and you have it! Nice. |
| Fettoosh May 20, 2012 12:41 PM EDT |
Quoting:Exciting times I say it is really scary to MS & many OEMs. I bet there is lots of head scratching going on now. |
| caitlyn May 21, 2012 12:36 AM EDT |
Quoting:I say it is really scary to MS & many OEMs. I bet there is lots of head scratching going on now.Nah. They'll claim it violates nine Microsoft patents. |
| gus3 May 21, 2012 12:53 AM EDT |
Only nine? I'd put money on Oracle beating that by at least 30. |
| caitlyn May 21, 2012 12:59 AM EDT |
I took the number nine from the Motorola case that just went Microsoft's way. |
| Khamul May 21, 2012 9:36 AM EDT |
Oracle will also claim it violates their copyrights, and show that it has a file with the line "int main {" which their lawyer will claim would take 6 weeks to write. |
| jdixon May 21, 2012 10:33 AM EDT |
> ...which their lawyer will claim would take 6 weeks to write. Given what I've seen of Oracle software, I wouldn't be a bit surprised. |
| Fettoosh May 21, 2012 11:08 AM EDT |
Nine patents dropped down to one. So what happened to the other eight, invalidated?Quoting: Update Quoting: Better recent Update |
| JaseP May 21, 2012 11:15 AM EDT |
It's a nice little box, but the Raspberry PI is better. The Raspberry is cheaper and has more connectivity options (Bluetooth, Wifi, Ethernet). The only upsides I see for this device are its footprint and the fact it has an external case. |
| caitlyn May 21, 2012 12:01 PM EDT |
The footprint and the external case do matter, you know ;) |
| JaseP May 21, 2012 12:17 PM EDT |
I'm surprised that you don't see case manufacturers for the PI,... But yes, you are correct, they DO matter... But not $40 worth, especially without as many connectivity options. |
| caitlyn May 21, 2012 12:31 PM EDT |
It also matters that I can't get my hands on a Pi. |
| gus3 May 21, 2012 1:33 PM EDT |
"No RPi case manufacturers"? I beg to differ... http://elinux.org/RPi_Cases Note, they aren't all "concepts" or DIY. |
| JaseP May 21, 2012 7:05 PM EDT |
OK, I stand corrected,... But to get many of them, you need a 3D Printer... Like a RepRap, MakerBot, or a Solidoodle... |
| gus3 May 21, 2012 7:34 PM EDT |
I count 3D printing as DIY. And ModMyPi as "concept" since they aren't yet shipping. But the laser-cut wood case and the SK Pang acrylic case are real, now. |
| caitlyn May 21, 2012 7:43 PM EDT |
They also add cost which makes the difference in price between the Pi and the units in the article very much a non-issue. |
| gus3 May 21, 2012 8:06 PM EDT |
No argument from me on that point. For myself, I'm trying the DIY route: the printable fold-up case. One laser-printed page for the template, and one 50-cent sheet of posterboard for the card stock, isn't a bad price. That'll be enough card stock for five or six false starts. ;-) |
| JaseP May 22, 2012 10:10 AM EDT |
If you already have a 3D printer (I'm taking a serious look at the Solidoodle,... dumb name,... amazing printer), the cost of any of the free plastic printable designs is negligible,... probably like $0.04 to $0.05 in materials. |
| caitlyn May 22, 2012 2:13 PM EDT |
I don't have a 3D printer. I prefer a more solid case anyway. |
| penguinist May 22, 2012 10:51 PM EDT |
Today my turn came up to order a Raspberry Pi. It is supposed to ship in about three weeks. We sure are seeing a lot of offerings in the < $50 soc-computer category lately. It will be hard for MS to put their OS on this new round of ultra low cost machines. Maybe hardware price reductions will be the impetus to drive Linux into the hands of the people. |
| jdixon May 23, 2012 9:15 AM EDT |
> Maybe hardware price reductions will be the impetus to drive Linux into the hands of the people. More likely they'll just casually allow pirating of Windows XP, just as they resurrected it for netbooks. |
| CFWhitman May 23, 2012 9:48 AM EDT |
It would have to be Windows CE (or something else that will run on ARM). Windows XP won't run on these ultra-cheap ARM based computers. |
| jdixon May 23, 2012 10:09 AM EDT |
> It would have to be Windows CE (or something else that will run on ARM). True. I'd forgotten that. |
| Fettoosh May 23, 2012 11:14 AM EDT |
Quoting:It would have to be Windows CE (or something else that will run on ARM) Windows CE can't compete with Linux, it isn't good enough. But I bet they would be willing to offer Windows 8 for a Dollar. |
| caitlyn May 23, 2012 11:22 AM EDT |
Windows CE is successfully competing with Android on very low end netbooks. Right now that market is about 50/50 Android/CE. Never underestimate the public's willingness to choose garbage so long as it has the Windows name on it. |
| JaseP May 23, 2012 12:00 PM EDT |
Quoting: I don't have a 3D printer. I prefer a more solid case anyway. The 3D printers that I mentioned print in ABS plastic, similar to what you find in a typical Lego brick... That's about as sturdy as plastic typically gets. |
| Fettoosh May 23, 2012 12:00 PM EDT |
Quoting:Windows CE is successfully competing with Android on very low end netbooks. Hmm, I said Linux not Android. Android is Linux with one hand still tied behind the back. Besides, Linux is more open and adaptable to various devices. But, you are right, one shouldn't underestimate the power of a rich monopoly that coerces others into using its products. |
| caitlyn May 23, 2012 12:54 PM EDT |
It's no coercion in most cases. It's fear of the unknown, of anything different. Windows is familiar, or at least people think it is until they realize that CE isn't the Windows they know. Also, never underestimate inertia and laziness. |
| caitlyn May 23, 2012 1:01 PM EDT |
p.s.: I've always enjoyed the Anne Droid: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkZiobuDJyg |
| CFWhitman May 23, 2012 1:11 PM EDT |
Quoting:Windows CE can't compete with Linux, it isn't good enough. I agree; it isn't good enough. Yet that's what I see on the pseudo-netbooks for sale at the drug store. |
| skelband May 23, 2012 1:14 PM EDT |
@caitlyn: Thank goodness it's only a trans-materialisation beam :D Makes the "walk of shame" seem pretty lame... |
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