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Ridcully Jun 14, 2012 4:59 AM EDT |
This is now reaching the realms of insanity. Here in "down under", any of those items can be sold in garage sales, on ebay or elsewhere.......and why not ? You own the item, or don't you ? If you do, it is yours to dispose of as you will.......anything else is ludicrous. |
JaseP Jun 14, 2012 9:35 AM EDT |
The world is becoming a ludicrous place... Don't like it? Help change it. Get active in voicing your opinion (no matter what that is). I'm going to invoke Godwin's law... Sorry,... But, the reason the Nazi's got away with atrocities is because all the people who could have stopped them before they had political inertia felt they couldn't change things or couldn't be bothered. |
caitlyn Jun 14, 2012 7:59 PM EDT |
I never put any stock in Godwin's law, perhaps because I'm the daughter of two Holocaust survivors. JaseP, you're right about the fact that most people sat idly by, even those who knew full well what the Nazis were doing. Having said that, comparing copyright law (however wrongheaded a court ruling was) to genocide on a massive scale is offensive in the extreme. |
tuxchick Jun 14, 2012 8:16 PM EDT |
I'm with JaseP in concept-- atrocities usually have their roots in tiny tyrannies and misdeeds, and as those succeed they get worse. They succeed because people look the other way, or worse go along with it. Don't underestimate the impact of corrupt laws, of "merely" taking away our liberties in the name of commerce. |
Ridcully Jun 14, 2012 8:43 PM EDT |
Would you believe, that until JaseP's post above, I had never heard of "Godwin's Law"....I looked it up. I see Godwin's point, but I think it is now becoming a bit "dated" as WWII recedes and the memories are simply not there for the younger generation. I'm currently watching a set of the Life and Times of Lord Mountbatten, so the ideas were relevant. Dunno whether the law applies here though. However, I'm with tuxchick on this. Although the sentence has been mis-attributed to Edmund Burke, the words actually appear in the narrator's statements in the film of Tolstoy's "War and Peace": "All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing". (And "men" here includes women too.) And that is pretty much how I see this absurdity of a legal challenge to consumer rights. |
JaseP Jun 15, 2012 9:36 AM EDT |
@ Caityn: Not meant to offend, or even compare the relative harms, but to illustrate the point. A counter illustration is the American Revolution, where people DID not stand idly by while societal harms were being done. Apple is sticking their head in a patent dispute, and in doing so depriving a mute little girl of the only app that has proven to help her communicate. Content providers are abusing the DMCA (a bad law as has ever been enacted) with false and overreaching take down notices. The DoJ is spending tax resources to (try to) prosecute a foreign corporation for "encouraging" video "piracy" (a/k/a copyright infringement, a more correct term) as a criminal conspiracy, despite the fact that there were substantial legitimate uses of their service (including hosting Open Source software packages). It's like we all fell asleep and woke up in an alternate reality where the Weyland Corporation from the Alien franchise was in charge of everything. This is the reality we are living in though. It may be a slippery slope argument I'm making,... But who would have known, ninety years ago, that a second rate German enlisted man and wannabe artist would become the most reviled political despot in the past three centuries, and be responsible for the deaths of millions of in innocent people (including approx. 6 million Jewish people), and nearly your parents? A pearl starts with a small particle in the wrong place,... but so too does an avalanche. |
Koriel Jun 15, 2012 10:04 AM EDT |
Please stop badmouthing Weyland Corporation, I have shares in Yutani and the up and coming merger to form Weyland-Yutani will practically double their value. I do know what species is worse and I will **** them over for a goddamn percentage. Signed Carter J Burke. |
JaseP Jun 15, 2012 10:11 AM EDT |
Carter, I have your passage arranged for LV-426 on the Sulaco... |
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