And let that be a reminder...

Story: Microsoft wins injunction against Motorola phones in GermanyTotal Replies: 4
Author Content
DrDubious

Jul 28, 2012
1:53 PM EDT
...to all those European users who keep saying "well, WE don't have software patents here, so we don't have to worry about that."

(Wasn't this patent invalidated? Or was that only in the US?)
Fettoosh

Jul 28, 2012
2:34 PM EDT
You are correct DrDubious, it was invalidated in the US, here is a helpful link

Torvalds Invalidates Microsoft FAT Patent

and Here

More links found on Google

But that is in the US not in Germany. I believe the same reason could be good enough to invalidate it anywhere, unless MS finds a corrupt judge some where.

linux4567

Jul 28, 2012
3:08 PM EDT
That is a first instance ruling of a lower regional court, and according to some comments I read on German forums Motorola never brought up the argument that the patent itself is invalid as it's a software patent, most likely because Motorola/Google doesn't want to automatically invalidate all their own software Patents as a consequence.

Regardless of the reason why Motorola/Google didn't bring up the 'software patents are invalid' argument, in a civil case (at least in a Roman law system like Germany uses) the judge purely decides on the arguments brought up by each side. If no side questions the validity of software patents in principle, then the judge won't do that either.
Fettoosh

Jul 28, 2012
4:06 PM EDT
Quoting:Motorola never brought up the argument that the patent itself is invalid as it's a software patent, most likely because Motorola/Google doesn't want to automatically invalidate all their own software Patents as a consequence.


But Motorola/Google don't have to bring up the issue of software patents are invalid, all they need to do is to indicate that this particular patent is invalid by citing this 20-year-old technical discussion/reference

I think it should be sufficient. But, I believe they want to take the case to a higher level court and have MS pay penalty when it is invalidated, as this article indicates.

Quoting:The injunction is not final, as Microsoft will have to put up a security deposit of €10 million to €30 million ($12.4 million to $37 million), for the court to keep in case Motorola appeals and is found not guilty of patent infringement in a second suit.


helios

Jul 28, 2012
4:51 PM EDT
($12.4 million to $37 million)

While that sounds like a lot of money, it's just a rounding error when calculating their cash reserves. It should be much, much more.

Posting in this forum is limited to members of the group: [ForumMods, SITEADMINS, MEMBERS.]

Becoming a member of LXer is easy and free. Join Us!