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@TxtEdMacs:
Help me out here, friend - you've left me a little confused. Lets just assume that you're much smarter than I, and that you'll need to write in short sentences, with small words for my benefit, ok?
1) Who's dumpster? I'm assuming you were addressing me, but that may be our first miscommunication.
2) What post addressed to my name? A couple posts up is one from you addressed to tuxtom.
3) What outrage? I'm not at all bent over the contents of this thread. I found tuxtom's comments inane, and applauded tuxchick (in a backwards kind of way) for calling him on it. I'm not ticked at tuxtom, and have nothing against him (gender assumption on my part, please forgive me if I'm mistaken) - I simply thought he was way off base. My only other comment was one in support of tracyanne's position.
4) Apologize for what, exactly? I'm still trying to understand who it is you think I've attacked, please explain your own outrage at my post.
In fact, the only personal attack I can find is your implication that I suffer from MPD. So yes, now I am a bit lost, but only insofar as is related to your rant. Care to enlighten me?
Help me out here, friend - you've left me a little confused. Lets just assume that you're much smarter than I, and that you'll need to write in short sentences, with small words for my benefit, ok?
1) Who's dumpster? I'm assuming you were addressing me, but that may be our first miscommunication.
2) What post addressed to my name? A couple posts up is one from you addressed to tuxtom.
3) What outrage? I'm not at all bent over the contents of this thread. I found tuxtom's comments inane, and applauded tuxchick (in a backwards kind of way) for calling him on it. I'm not ticked at tuxtom, and have nothing against him (gender assumption on my part, please forgive me if I'm mistaken) - I simply thought he was way off base. My only other comment was one in support of tracyanne's position.
4) Apologize for what, exactly? I'm still trying to understand who it is you think I've attacked, please explain your own outrage at my post.
In fact, the only personal attack I can find is your implication that I suffer from MPD. So yes, now I am a bit lost, but only insofar as is related to your rant. Care to enlighten me?
dumper4311 (aka dumpster),
This will have to be quick, since I have no time to answer fully. Nonetheless, I think I owe your an apology having both misread your words and intent. Here I am the one at fault reading what I presumed was present and thinking you were attacking these individuals. You did not and were not, respectively. I was too quick to take offense where there was none to be taken.
Usually, I throw more comments away, despite repeated revisions to get the right wording. Had I been lucky I should have dumped this one. The alias I applied to you was completely inappropriate, whereas Tuxedo Tom will forever more be my image of an acidic based comedian with a large Cuban cigar spewing bile without factual foundation. I am ashamed to see that now puts me into his group, by claiming that's where you belonged.
Simply stated, nearly everything I wrote or implied in my note was WRONG.
Bigger words are no indication of intellect. Moreover, they can make one more prone to bigger screw ups like this one.
Need more, email me through LXer. I am trying to finish a project.
Txt.
This will have to be quick, since I have no time to answer fully. Nonetheless, I think I owe your an apology having both misread your words and intent. Here I am the one at fault reading what I presumed was present and thinking you were attacking these individuals. You did not and were not, respectively. I was too quick to take offense where there was none to be taken.
Usually, I throw more comments away, despite repeated revisions to get the right wording. Had I been lucky I should have dumped this one. The alias I applied to you was completely inappropriate, whereas Tuxedo Tom will forever more be my image of an acidic based comedian with a large Cuban cigar spewing bile without factual foundation. I am ashamed to see that now puts me into his group, by claiming that's where you belonged.
Simply stated, nearly everything I wrote or implied in my note was WRONG.
Quoting: ... Lets just assume that you're much smarter than I ...
Bigger words are no indication of intellect. Moreover, they can make one more prone to bigger screw ups like this one.
Need more, email me through LXer. I am trying to finish a project.
Txt.
@TxtEdMacs:
No problem, things like that happen. Thank you for your reply and your honesty. As far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue.
Good fortune with your project.
No problem, things like that happen. Thank you for your reply and your honesty. As far as I'm concerned, it's a non-issue.
Good fortune with your project.
Group hug!
*run away fast*
*run away fast*
Quoting:*run away fast*
What? You don't want to join in? :-)
Well Sander, it's hot and people are sweaty. So- no!
:)
:)
The cheapskate is still asking people to give him a computer http://blogs.zdnet.com/open-source/?p=2741 , and airing his ignorance as well.
Quoting: I sort of expected a vendor representative to write and offer a unit, but that did not happen. This may tell more about the state of this market than anything else.
Actually it means that vendors aren't reading his column in hopes of finding freeloaders to give things to :). This whole deal is silly- he knows as well as anyone that the way to get review units is to contact vendors and ask. You also ask them for information, and maybe get an interview out of the deal. Laptops (and phones and cameras) are hot items, so they don't loan them to just anyone- the vendor will want an actual review to appear, in a timely fashion, on a site with more than a half-dozen readers, and pets don't count. Then they will want their stuff returned, again in a timely fashion, and in good condition. Sometimes you can buy review units at a discount. If you have a reputation as a mooch you won't get review items.
I don't believe he is serious about getting a Linux laptop to review- it's just a dumb stunt.
1) Get laptop (just about any will do).
2) Install distro of your choice.
3) Use it.
It's not all that hard, or I wouldn't be able to do it.
I blog, too. Nobody's offering me any free laptops, either.
2) Install distro of your choice.
3) Use it.
It's not all that hard, or I wouldn't be able to do it.
I blog, too. Nobody's offering me any free laptops, either.
I wrote this reply to Dana's most recent blog entry:
Bottom line, if you're writing about Linux and open source, then you owe it to yourself and your readers to spend some time doing Linux installs and seeing how they work.
Get yourself a PC -- any PC -- and start downloading ISOs and burning them to CD, and start seeing how the various distros work and what you like.
Ubuntu, Debian, Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, Slackware, ZenWalk ... and a few hundred more. There are plenty of choices.
The future may very well be in preloaded Linux PCs, but the present is very much an install-it-yourself era, and Dana, I think you need to buy into this concept and get off the pot.
Link: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-10535-0.html?forumID=1&thread...
Bottom line, if you're writing about Linux and open source, then you owe it to yourself and your readers to spend some time doing Linux installs and seeing how they work.
Get yourself a PC -- any PC -- and start downloading ISOs and burning them to CD, and start seeing how the various distros work and what you like.
Ubuntu, Debian, Mandriva, PCLinuxOS, Slackware, ZenWalk ... and a few hundred more. There are plenty of choices.
The future may very well be in preloaded Linux PCs, but the present is very much an install-it-yourself era, and Dana, I think you need to buy into this concept and get off the pot.
Link: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-10535-0.html?forumID=1&thread...
WOW!!! Seems I created quite a stir here. Not sure if that's good or bad, but it's happenin' so I'll roll with it.
Opportunistic obnoxious git? That's sounds so pompous, even comical...us 'mericans don't talk that way. However, it could very well be true. (I'd love to hear myself called that in Afrikaans)
Troll? I'd be a liar if I told you I didn't dabble with the verb at times, but I'm not the noun.
Inane? Usually, around here anyway. Depends who you talk to. It's contagious. Everybody's got it at one time or another.
Much of the context behind my remarks goes back to a lengthy discussion several months (over a year?) ago with tracyanne where she openly denigrated open source development tools in favor of Microsoft Visual Studio, vehemently condemning the entire broad spectrum of FOSS as sub-par. She drove her point home very hard. By the end of that discussion (which wasn't going in her favor), she had resorted to justifying her position by soliciting sympathy for her employment circumstances, making it seem as if there were a gun put to her head to develop on Microsoft because she lived in AU. (On a related side note: a google of "australia linux jobs" will keep a person as busy as they want to be. There's gotta be a diamond or two in there. Beats reading Dana's blog, huh?)
BTW: I'd love to pull up the old thread but this inferior FOSS technology here on LXer won't let me search by user, date or keyword. Darn PHP. Oh well, thanks for the credit card numbers.
Back to the topic: You might think this wouldn't be THAT big a deal, even if it were somewhat offensive to this audience. Now here on LXer, Linux is not just a hobby...it is the end-all, be-all of computing. ANYTHING Microsoft is 100% evil. Any mention of the company or its products deserves a swift, critical retort. The Prime Directive is 100% domination, and Microsoft's gotta go...like, yesterday. (I find this immature and unrealistic, yet it is pervasive and omnipresent here at LXer and perpetrated most prolifically by those who deny it, particularly those who hate PHP.) How can someone be loyal to LXer...Linux itself...and be loyal to Microsoft at the same time? 2 + 2 != 5 Does not compute, does not compute, must say something, must say something...
A nerve was really struck when I read her comments above. I guess I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that previous discussion many months ago. I wish I never had that discussion. I wish I never read her true thoughts and feelings on the subject. I wish it went away and never came back. But wishing doesn't change a thing. Tracyanne is part of this community, everyone likes her...I like her. She seems sincerely interested. She likes her Mandrake, fer sure. Good stuff. Yet, she is sleeping with the enemy: not because she has to...but because she believes the enemy is SUPERIOR. I thought to myself: "Elitist about Microsoft, now elitist about Linux? Didn't she say she didn't have the time to learn FOSS development and that it was inferior, yet now she's gonna call people down on their take on Linux?". That was my reaction. I'm not defending it, I'm explaining it. I can't change it. It happened.
Call me all the names you want...I am not calling anyone here names, mind you. This is a matter of principal, not etiquette. I just bared my soul to you, however despicable you may find it. I'm actually a sweetheart.
Candy for everybody!!! http://www.tuxtom.com
Opportunistic obnoxious git? That's sounds so pompous, even comical...us 'mericans don't talk that way. However, it could very well be true. (I'd love to hear myself called that in Afrikaans)
Troll? I'd be a liar if I told you I didn't dabble with the verb at times, but I'm not the noun.
Inane? Usually, around here anyway. Depends who you talk to. It's contagious. Everybody's got it at one time or another.
Much of the context behind my remarks goes back to a lengthy discussion several months (over a year?) ago with tracyanne where she openly denigrated open source development tools in favor of Microsoft Visual Studio, vehemently condemning the entire broad spectrum of FOSS as sub-par. She drove her point home very hard. By the end of that discussion (which wasn't going in her favor), she had resorted to justifying her position by soliciting sympathy for her employment circumstances, making it seem as if there were a gun put to her head to develop on Microsoft because she lived in AU. (On a related side note: a google of "australia linux jobs" will keep a person as busy as they want to be. There's gotta be a diamond or two in there. Beats reading Dana's blog, huh?)
BTW: I'd love to pull up the old thread but this inferior FOSS technology here on LXer won't let me search by user, date or keyword. Darn PHP. Oh well, thanks for the credit card numbers.
Back to the topic: You might think this wouldn't be THAT big a deal, even if it were somewhat offensive to this audience. Now here on LXer, Linux is not just a hobby...it is the end-all, be-all of computing. ANYTHING Microsoft is 100% evil. Any mention of the company or its products deserves a swift, critical retort. The Prime Directive is 100% domination, and Microsoft's gotta go...like, yesterday. (I find this immature and unrealistic, yet it is pervasive and omnipresent here at LXer and perpetrated most prolifically by those who deny it, particularly those who hate PHP.) How can someone be loyal to LXer...Linux itself...and be loyal to Microsoft at the same time? 2 + 2 != 5 Does not compute, does not compute, must say something, must say something...
A nerve was really struck when I read her comments above. I guess I still have a bad taste in my mouth from that previous discussion many months ago. I wish I never had that discussion. I wish I never read her true thoughts and feelings on the subject. I wish it went away and never came back. But wishing doesn't change a thing. Tracyanne is part of this community, everyone likes her...I like her. She seems sincerely interested. She likes her Mandrake, fer sure. Good stuff. Yet, she is sleeping with the enemy: not because she has to...but because she believes the enemy is SUPERIOR. I thought to myself: "Elitist about Microsoft, now elitist about Linux? Didn't she say she didn't have the time to learn FOSS development and that it was inferior, yet now she's gonna call people down on their take on Linux?". That was my reaction. I'm not defending it, I'm explaining it. I can't change it. It happened.
Call me all the names you want...I am not calling anyone here names, mind you. This is a matter of principal, not etiquette. I just bared my soul to you, however despicable you may find it. I'm actually a sweetheart.
Candy for everybody!!! http://www.tuxtom.com
Quoting:I don't believe he is serious about getting a Linux laptop to review- it's just a dumb stunt.
I tend to agree, I think he'd take one if it was given to him, I think he's trying to freeload. In all this time that he's been writing about Linux, not once has he had a Linux box, not even as a second computer, and now that his Windows box has died he wants someone to give him a one.
Memo to Dana: Just because the software's free, doesn't mean the hardware is.
That, and learn the difference between "free speech" and "free beer."
That, and learn the difference between "free speech" and "free beer."
Holy wall of text, Batman.
Quoting:BTW: I'd love to pull up the old thread but this inferior FOSS technology here on LXer won't let me search by user, date or keyword.
Use google. It has the entire forum indexed and is actually pretty good at it. Just enter your keywords and slap "site:lxer.com" at the end of your query. If you get too many results from news articles, also slap an "inurl:forums" in there.
Is this the one you're looking for? http://lxer.com/module/forums/t/26820/
> but this inferior FOSS technology here on LXer won't let me search by user
Eh? Searching on tracyanne gives you 8 hits. Clicking on the tracyanne in "posted by tracyanne" in any of those links pulls up her entire posting history (73 stories).
> On a related side note: a google of "australia linux jobs" will keep a person as busy as they want to be.
You really have no idea how big Australia is, do you?
Eh? Searching on tracyanne gives you 8 hits. Clicking on the tracyanne in "posted by tracyanne" in any of those links pulls up her entire posting history (73 stories).
> On a related side note: a google of "australia linux jobs" will keep a person as busy as they want to be.
You really have no idea how big Australia is, do you?
Quoting:You really have no idea how big Australia is, do you?
Yep, My state Queensland is bigger than Alaska, and Texas would fit inside Queensland several times.
Quoting: Just because the software's free, doesn't mean the hardware is.
lol gus3. See, that hippie commie Linux junk has ruint everyone's values! Now they expect freebies all over the place.
Quoting:See, that hippie commie Linux junk has ruint everyone's values! Now they expect freebies all over the place.Nah, only the pundits whose business is to talk and type. They talk about, and talk about, and talk about, with little or no serious research.
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This is your first post on this thread, are you lost? Or a simple case of cross thread pollution where your expectation of (and solicitation of) insults exceeds the not so slight capacity of site luminaries to deliver?
An apology might be in order or just maybe an edit that removes the attack. It would be greatly appreciated. However, if you insist to retain your feelings of outrage, go up a couple posts up and see that one addressed to your name. Then rage on if you must.
[The thought has occurred to me, that this is a case of multiple identities. However, in the standard medical literature the usual case is the supposed separate identities are at war with one another. Moreover, the nicer ones are completely oblivious of the existence of the vile, alter egos. Nonetheless, you two are more like twins. Perhaps one of the site administrators could sort this out for you. It could have the beneficial effect of lessening the nastiness of the exchanges. Let me encourage you to seek help.]