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Do you play Free and Open Source games?
Are you a PC gamer? Do you play Free and Open Source games? - Complete this short survey and you could win a $50 Amazon gift certificate + $100 donation to the Open Source game project of your choice. If you are a gamer, we want YOU to give us your feedback with this short 10 minute survey. Open Source software has had a tremendous influence in nearly every area of computing - including the gaming space. The goal of this survey is to get a deeper understanding of the current general perception of Free and Open Source games. It is our hope that the survey results help reflect and constructively improve the state of Open Source gaming. NOTE: This survey is anonymous and the results are intended to help us better understand the FOSS community and NOT commercial purposes. The insights of this survey will be detailed in my (Joseph Guarino) presentation on FOSS games at the Southern California Linux Expo (SCALE) as well as archived online. For further details see the SCALE website: http://scale7x.socallinuxexpo.org/ |
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Comments (33)
13 earlier comments in the full thread.
It seems that it would be far easier just to put linux instead of trying to provide different distros when you don't list them all.
@boomboom: indeed
Quoting:as the page in question requires that you select any that apply, and won't let you continue unless you select at least one. None apply, so I can't continue.
Didn't they teach you multiple-choice (multiple-gamble is what it's named in our country) at school? If there is no correct answer, choose the best one.
As Mandriva is Red Hat based, I'd say you chose something RedHat based. You are right the answer is correct and in fact you'd be lying, but nonetheless you'd have provided the best answer possible.
This was my reply to Joeseph:
> > > > Well unfortunately Joseph, those who use Mandriva, Slackware, Xandros, > > Mepis, and lots of other Distributions can't complete the survey, and > > that includes all of my customers here in Australia, and significant > > numbers of Linux users in South America, where Mandriva is more poular > > than Ubuntu and China and Russia, and Other East European countries and > > Africa countries where Mandriva has a much greater mindshare than > > Ubuntu, can't complete the questionaire. It would be both dishonest, and > > inaccurate to select any of the other options. > > > > regards > > > > Tracyanne
> > > > Well unfortunately Joseph, those who use Mandriva, Slackware, Xandros, > > Mepis, and lots of other Distributions can't complete the survey, and > > that includes all of my customers here in Australia, and significant > > numbers of Linux users in South America, where Mandriva is more poular > > than Ubuntu and China and Russia, and Other East European countries and > > Africa countries where Mandriva has a much greater mindshare than > > Ubuntu, can't complete the questionaire. It would be both dishonest, and > > inaccurate to select any of the other options. > > > > regards > > > > Tracyanne
His reply
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 09:39 -0700, Joseph Guarino wrote: Hello Tracy, > > As I said before the survey is about FOSS GAMES and the disto question > isn't fundamentally important or valid to the results I seek. It's not > a survey about 1 distro vs. another, its about FOSS GAMES! If any of > you chose to not complete it that is your own choice. As I said next > time I will include as many as I can. > > Have a great day! > Joseph Guarino > CISSP,LPIC,MCSE2000-2003,PMP > Evolutionary IT - Best Practice IT(tm) > Website: http://www.evolutionaryit.com > Blog: http://www.evolutionaryit.com/blog > 888.404.5074 (Office)
On Sun, 2009-02-08 at 09:39 -0700, Joseph Guarino wrote: Hello Tracy, > > As I said before the survey is about FOSS GAMES and the disto question > isn't fundamentally important or valid to the results I seek. It's not > a survey about 1 distro vs. another, its about FOSS GAMES! If any of > you chose to not complete it that is your own choice. As I said next > time I will include as many as I can. > > Have a great day! > Joseph Guarino > CISSP,LPIC,MCSE2000-2003,PMP > Evolutionary IT - Best Practice IT(tm) > Website: http://www.evolutionaryit.com > Blog: http://www.evolutionaryit.com/blog > 888.404.5074 (Office)
And my further reply
If the Linux distribution isn't important, or indeed the version of Windows, for that matter, why did you not simply put Linux? for Linux users and Windows for Windows users?
Reading your survey questions makes it seem it does matter. I use Mandriva and use task-games from the urpmi package manager when I set up a games computer for people or select individual games on computers designated for other uses, other people I know use Slackware and Mepis and PCLInuxOS, and yet you listed Ubuntu and several Ubuntu variations, all of which are actually merely Ubuntu with different skins, as if they were different distributions.
It's almost as if you are one of those people who think that Ubuntu and Linux are interchangable, and mean the same thing. ?Personally I don't enjoy being counted as an Ubuntu user, or a Red hat user or a SuSE user, I'm happy to be counted as a Linux user, if you can't or won't include the distribution I use.
regards
Tracyanne
If the Linux distribution isn't important, or indeed the version of Windows, for that matter, why did you not simply put Linux? for Linux users and Windows for Windows users?
Reading your survey questions makes it seem it does matter. I use Mandriva and use task-games from the urpmi package manager when I set up a games computer for people or select individual games on computers designated for other uses, other people I know use Slackware and Mepis and PCLInuxOS, and yet you listed Ubuntu and several Ubuntu variations, all of which are actually merely Ubuntu with different skins, as if they were different distributions.
It's almost as if you are one of those people who think that Ubuntu and Linux are interchangable, and mean the same thing. ?Personally I don't enjoy being counted as an Ubuntu user, or a Red hat user or a SuSE user, I'm happy to be counted as a Linux user, if you can't or won't include the distribution I use.
regards
Tracyanne
Right on TA.
I'm a Sabayon user, although I dont mind being counted as a Gentoo user when push comes to shove. Overall I'm a Linux user, and I agree, dont buttonhole me into $DISTRO, instead just call it Linux and go from there.
I'm a Sabayon user, although I dont mind being counted as a Gentoo user when push comes to shove. Overall I'm a Linux user, and I agree, dont buttonhole me into $DISTRO, instead just call it Linux and go from there.
So much vitriol. Tracyanne, why did you not simply suggest that he add an "other" option to the survey?
She did, in her first letter.
Vitriol?? where? That's not even anger. Probing yes. Possibly even difficult questions if the person never really thought the survey through properly, but vitriol hardly applies.
then there is
Which begs the question, "In what way is it important?"
Quoting:the disto question isn't fundamentally important
Which begs the question, "In what way is it important?"
From a reply to TA's letter:
Joseph Guarino
> CISSP,LPIC,MCSE2000-2003,PMP
MCSE? That would explain it for me.
MCSE? That would explain it for me.
Quoting:Vitriol?? where? That's not even anger.
Well, vitriol is probably too strong a word, but it doesn't read like a nice, friendly conversation either.
Quoting:She did, in her first letter.
Indeed, she did. I had to re-read it before I saw it. Twice. Perhaps the survey author had the same problem? He sounds like he doesn't want to add a list of 300 other Linux distros.
Quoting:but it doesn't read like a nice, friendly conversation either.
It's not supposed to be. It's a complaint pointing out issues with his survey.
He made the necessary change, and added Linux(Any) as an option. i completed the survey.
Ok. I've completed it too now that it's completable.
:)
Completed, although I dislike when the same question is asked repeatedly. It's like he's hoping to trip people up.
I wonder what he means by a commercial game. Because FOSS does not mean that the game is not commercial, just as Closed source does not mean that the game is commercial.
traceyanne,
I was forthright and respectful in all of my responses and you were simply deluded and immature. If you want to take me to task on something then you do so speaking with me alone and not on a forum. I didn't violate your privacy (as you did mine) herein or engage in a condescending/smug tone. Nearly 690 other people had all positive words to say about the survey that are quite the opposite of yours. What is even more confounding is that you miss the fundamental point of my survey and my consistent efforts to support the FOSS gaming community.
I was forthright and respectful in all of my responses and you were simply deluded and immature. If you want to take me to task on something then you do so speaking with me alone and not on a forum. I didn't violate your privacy (as you did mine) herein or engage in a condescending/smug tone. Nearly 690 other people had all positive words to say about the survey that are quite the opposite of yours. What is even more confounding is that you miss the fundamental point of my survey and my consistent efforts to support the FOSS gaming community.
@itevolutionary, you still miss the point, even though you actually rectified the problem. Thank you for your efforts.
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