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Windows Users - The Charlie Browns of Computing
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14 earlier comments in the full thread.
> (Unless MS has some inane stipulations in their EULA that forbid it...
Windows Vista has such a provision. I don't believe they had thought of it yet with Windows XP, though they may have modified the EULA to add it.
In any case, if you're a home user and you can get it activated, you probably don't care. They're not going to be auditing you.
Windows Vista has such a provision. I don't believe they had thought of it yet with Windows XP, though they may have modified the EULA to add it.
In any case, if you're a home user and you can get it activated, you probably don't care. They're not going to be auditing you.
Everyone's using pirated windows, and so its free, in the sense they dont have to pay microsoft.
A friend's relative recently bowed down nd actually *bought* original windows hoping it would not suffer from viruses. :-P
Windows is actually using its weaknesses to sell itself. That's some marketing...
Windows is actually using its weaknesses to sell itself. That's some marketing...
What I find most interesting is that in other fora, when there is an argument Linux vs Windows, if I raise the issue of having to pay for Windows, Office and the like, one of the pro-Windows posters will invariably pop up saying that I'm such an idiot. Just get new versions by downloading from warez sites and The Pirate Bay, etc. Only an idiot would pay for Windows, and anyone with brains will know how to avoid the warez sites that put up Windows disk images with viruses and trojans and such.
Gee, what an idiot I am. Here I thought Microsoft made money from Windows sales.
Personally, I'd much rather use software that the author actually wants me to use.
Gee, what an idiot I am. Here I thought Microsoft made money from Windows sales.
Personally, I'd much rather use software that the author actually wants me to use.
Hey, where did our OP go? He/she's missing all the fun!
hard to have a tar and feathering party without the victim, er. . . guest.
> Hey, where did our OP go?
That seems to be the pattern recently. One post an then gone. I guess we're too intimidating for them. All this harsh language and uncivilized behavior on our part, you know.
That seems to be the pattern recently. One post an then gone. I guess we're too intimidating for them. All this harsh language and uncivilized behavior on our part, you know.
Yeah, we're all horrible people who just won't play nicely with MS shills and astroturfers. We should all just be nice and not challenge the misinformation and outright falsehoods. That's the ticket.
LXer: Eating newbies for breakfast since 2004.
</sarcastic>
But seriously people, let's try not to scare new members away too fast eh?!
</sarcastic>
But seriously people, let's try not to scare new members away too fast eh?!
From what I've seen, I don't think olefowdie is an astroturfer (if he is, he's much better than justintime).
Let's see if I can draw out some astroturfers:
Mono is evil. We need to get it out of Linux distros. It is a patent trap. Die Mono die.
Let's see if I can draw out some astroturfers:
Mono is evil. We need to get it out of Linux distros. It is a patent trap. Die Mono die.
Quoting:Mono is evil. We need to get it out of Linux distros. It is a patent trap. Die Mono die.
I've been using F-Spot Photo Manager -- built with Mono -- since it's the default app for that purpose in Ubuntu. Truth be told, digiKam is better suited to my needs (as pretty much the only Linux-native app that at least partially addresses my JPEG holy grail, namely preserving and editing IPTC data), and I might migrate to that even if I don't run the full KDE desktop.
I'm also considering Picasa ...
Re: Linux not being free ...
I really wanted to stop playing the steal-this-software game that most Windows users are playing. Nobody wants to pay for those overpriced Windows/Mac apps, and in my case, I'm uncomfortable stealing them and justifying it in my own mind (and in others), so that was a primary motivation for me to move from proprietary to free, open-source software.
I really wanted to stop playing the steal-this-software game that most Windows users are playing. Nobody wants to pay for those overpriced Windows/Mac apps, and in my case, I'm uncomfortable stealing them and justifying it in my own mind (and in others), so that was a primary motivation for me to move from proprietary to free, open-source software.
I don't see a single rude or even harsh comment in this whole thread, Sander, and the OP doesn't claim to be a noob. The whole thing is uncharacteristically calm, so you should be praising us!
I agree with tuxchick. Try the comments section of DistroWatch Weekly if you think this is rude. Of course, so long as Ladislav pays me to write for him I'll be on DistroWatch Weekly regularly, comments and all :)
Quoting:I don't see a single rude or even harsh comment in this whole thread, Sander
It was more a general comment brought on by the disappearance of the OP than something specific to this thread.
OP might have more of a life than the rest of us here ...
> OP might have more of a life than the rest of us here ...
What's a life, and can I download a demo? :)
What's a life, and can I download a demo? :)
Quoting:What's a life, and can I download a demo?It's a computer simulation, developed by John Horton Conway in 1970. There are implementations to be found all over teh Intarwebs.
Gee... I thought Life was a cereal Mikey liked.
That, too, was just a simulation. Why do you think they called it a "script"?
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Well, as far as I can see I haven't detected a pricetag on OpenSUSE, Fedora, Blag,Gnewsense, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Sidux, Knoppix, etc. So in that sense it is as gratis as the sunrise.
When it comes to owning and maintaining Information Technology... Yes that costs money and time, no matter what OS you use. The myth that it is cheaper by default to maintain a Windows environment instead of migrating to Linux needs to die.
No matter how you spin it, Windows and the apps you use need to be upgraded anyways. New version of Windows? If you get on that bus, you probably need to replace your security and system health addons and your optical media program (CD/DVD/BD burner). When a new MS Office is released, you can set your timer. One day or another you'll need to upgrade to be able to open newer documents. All these licensed replacements cost money. Don't forget the occasional hardware purchase, because your old hardware doesn't get new drivers for your new shiny Windows anymore.
So let's migrate your home computer to Linux. With some exeptions (Wine/Crossover/Cedega) your Win32 programs don't run directly on Linux. Windows has become superfluous. You might have to replace some hardware as it doesn't have a Linux driver (yet). But you get a modern desktop with an Office suite, graphics editor, optical media program, multimedia player, webrowser and built in resilience to malware. Additional software is a few mouse clicks away from trusted sources. 99.9% of the time without additional costs.
But, you don't need to chuck windows when you switch to Linux. You can keep using Windows and programs by dual booting with Linux. Or you can switch Windows and apps to a (free of cost) virtual machine on top of Linux. (Unless MS has some inane stipulations in their EULA that forbid it. Then you need to check if the provision is enforceable.) Plus you can try to run your Win32 apps on Wine (gratis) or Cedega/Crossover (reasonably priced). Options abound.
Even if all of the above don't work. It will be a one time cutting of your losses. After that you have a fully featured environment that operates independently from the Redmond industry. In the eight years that Linux has been my main fulltime OS, it has given me considerable peace of mind. I had to spend some cash and some time to get an environment that works smoothly with Linux, but it was well worth it.