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Windows 7 vs. Linux, Microsoft Trashes Open Source OS

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Softpedia; By Marius Oiaga
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The advent of the next iteration of the Windows client represents yet another opportunity for operating system measuring contest, and the Redmond-based company is not the one to back down from a comparison that would push its product to the foreground. In fact, the software giant has put together its own Windows 7 vs. Linux comparison and is offering it to retailers in a "Linux vs. Windows 7" module as part of the Microsoft ExpertZone training. GodofGrunts, self-described as a Linux Lobbyist, made the contents of the "Linux vs. Windows 7" module public by posting them on Overclock. The training is designed to allow retailers to “explain how Windows 7 can provide a richer and more engaging experience than Linux. [And] discuss the specific benefits of running Windows 7 on a netbook.”

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Can't. Resist.

How is this headline material? "Microsoft Trashes Open Source OS"

What a shock, a company trashing its rival. I wonder if they'll cut in on the soap operas for that breaking news segment.
Quoting:What a shock, a company trashing its rival. I wonder if they'll cut in on the soap operas for that breaking news segment.
Quite a good point! And what may be most relevant here is that the Microsoft Windows 7 Sales juggernaut is indeed so actively and publicly even MENTIONING its rival.

As the widespread and historic Mahatma Gandhi quote on passive resistance went “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” --- see http://thinkexist.com/quotation/first_they_ignore_you-then_t... among other fine sites. So Microsoft Sales' attempts to so forthrightly trash Linux could very well signify a transition to Microsoft attempting to "fight" head-on potential Linux users.

End-users, as opposed to vendors and other partners.

LXer readers are already all too well aware of Microsoft's continued Legal and Product Development attacks on F/OSS through IP Patent Threats, hidden court-settlement conditions (see PJ's http://www.groklaw.com), questionable past SW-EULA clauses, NDAs for HW manufacturers, claims for code "interoperability", Embrace Extend Extinguish, .... the list goes on and on. Probably best to note here as materially relevant for this piece, that these L and D attacks are MUCH less aimed at the public, that is, unless any useful FUD somehow leaked out to consumers/governments (the infamous Novell Patent Deal ?? the ODF vs. OpenXML standards fiasco??) leads to increasing interest in MIcrosoft products.

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Again, the indication of a more widespread and public attack on Linux is the key point of this piece, apropos of Gandhi's historic Satyagraha "fighting call" above..

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Quoting:And what may be most relevant here is that the Microsoft Windows 7 Sales juggernaut is indeed so actively and publicly even MENTIONING its rival.


Indeed, especially true given the adagio "never mention the competition" somewhere in the Power Evangelism documents.
> And what may be most relevant here is that the Microsoft Windows 7 Sales juggernaut is indeed so actively and publicly even MENTIONING its rival.

That's exactly what I was thinking. If you have 96% market share, you don't start a campaign against a competitor with 0.76% market share (or whatever numbers the dart landed on this week). Even the company that gave us Vista isn't run that poorly.
But Microsoft doesn't have 96% sales share. If Steve Balmers' little chart, that he presented to Shareholders earlier this years is to be believed, Microsoft has more like 70%. with the rest more or less evenly divided between Mac and Linux.

But remember this, Microsoft are not mentioning Apple and MacOSX.
> Microsoft doesn't have 96% sales share

That's why I included "(or whatever numbers the dart landed on this week)". Those stories belong in the same section with Bigfoot sightings.
Let's make a bet...Let's make a bet that we cannot get 3 dozen Linux Users/advocates to get permits to stand on public street entrances to these places with signs that proclaim...whatever. MS Lies...told store to tell falsehoods...

"Do or do not do...there is no try"

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Microsoft make no mention of Apple and Mac OSX, that coukd be decause Apple are perceived by MS as the real threat, and Microsoft want to direct people's attention away from Apple and Mac, and at the same time, by association (that if it's not Windows then it's no good), sully people's perception of Apple and Mac OSX.
If we only knew who joined the mentioned 'Microsoft Expert training' we could tell them Microsoft didn't represent the facts. How could we find out?
Well, the next Linux netbook that makes it onto BB shelves should also offer some employee training, and casually present the real facts, which would then, of course, conflict with the The Facts (TM), possibly forcing these employees to actually find out for themselves.
Quoting:the next Linux netbook that makes it onto BB shelves
Shortly after the next sub-zero forecast in Hades.
Quoting:Shortly after the next sub-zero forecast in Hades.


No kidding. I had to laugh when I read the following quote in this story http://www.daniweb.com/news/story221775.html#post981734

Quoting:One of the reasons they were so successful in the 90s was because of well-publicizied anti-trust activities around Windows sales, which the US Government forced them to stop doing.


"which the US Government forced them to stop". ROTFLMAO. Yeah, they stopped their illegal activities all right.
U.S. Government attempts to thwart the M$ boat?? Hah!! Hasn't happened recently, probably won't in the near future Guess that Micro$uck$ is just too d&*$#d big to come close to failing.
> Guess that Micro$uck$ is just too d&*$#d big to come close to failing.

But they have failed, at least in their goals, if not financially.

Bill Gates wanted a computer in every home and a server in every office, all running Windows. Linux has absolutely destroyed any chance they had of monopolizing the server market and is well on it's way (with Apple) to doing the same in the home market. And FOSS is also eating away at their other software markets.

And now the combination of the economic downturn and higher sales of Linux and Apple computers have finally impacted their income stream. Microsoft isn't going away anytime soon, but they are well and truly wounded. And unless they change and start making innovative products worth what they charge for them again, the outcome is inevitable. They will become a niche OS/product provider, specializing in heavily integrated solutions for businesses, somewhat like Oracle and SAP. They will probably still be profitable, but they will be a shadow of they hoped to be.
The school I work at got 2 new computer labs this year and both of them are linux labs. We are also using many FOSS applications, and OO and the GIMP are on all the computers.

Good times, good times.
@jdixon, Yes, I think you're mostly right! I was just thinking of the large banks and car companies in the U.S. declaring that they were all too big to fail so they could get bailout money at the beginning of this year. Now I almost see Micro$uck as similarly trying to play the big victim too large to fail in the attention the European Union has been giving them. M$ has already effectively lobbied representatives to prevent any SERIOUS scrutiny from the U.S. Govt. That's my 2c, though YMMV.

@TBBC:

What school *might* that be? (Keep it speculative; after all, we don't want to traffic in facts here!)

Finally someone doing Linux marketing

Here's Microsoft educating netbook-resellers there's something beyond Windows. They're also telling them Ubuntu is a version of Linux and they may distribute over 100 updates a month!

They're admitting Windows7 might require some 'learning'. And that it needs additional 'free security' software to function.

And best of all: they're telling Photoshop and Office 2007 run on Windows 7 when trying to sell freakin' netbooks! Of course they will have a high return rate if their customers expect "compatibility with desktop software".
Actually netbooks are compatible with desktop software. That's Linux desktop software, of course. Windows is too bloated and bogs down the system which is the only reason Photoshop or Office 2007 won't run worth a d@mn. GIMP and OpenOffice run just fine, thankyouverymuch.
@hkwint, I'm wondering how much the M$ training people who put out these presentations are even AWARE how much they are questioning Windows 7's benefits and then doing Linux marketing like you write?? That would be my question. Reminds me also of the negative political mudslinging that typically happens in election years in the U.S. Does this mudslinging ever really work??? I think not !
@flufferbeer: I could give specific examples where I believe mudslinging and negative advertising worked in U.S. campaigns. I don't want this to go into a TOS violation and both parties have done it. Do you remember the Willie Horton ads? I believe they are a good example.
> I could give specific examples where I believe mudslinging and negative advertising worked in U.S. campaigns.

The key to negative advertising is that it must contain a kernel of truth which will resonate with the public. It can then warp that truth till it no longer bears any semblance to reality, but the kernel of truth must be there.
Quoting:@flufferbeer: I could give specific examples where I believe mudslinging and negative advertising worked in U.S. campaigns. I don't want this to go into a TOS violation


It's even viable to give examples without TOS violation: Assumed travel expenses malversations reported by Boston Globe, Peter Quinn, ODF/Massachussets, Peter had to resign, was cleared from the accusations, but too late.

However, back to Microsoft: I'm pretty sure most employees of Best Buys etc. have been disappointed by Microsoft products in the past. Either privately when working with it at home or when trying to help customers. I'm also pretty sure they will remember the Vista-marketing. Probably they also received some "Vista-training" when Vista was introduced. I'm also pretty sure customers came to them complaining about Windows Vista. So, probably, by now they're smart enough to have realized that - at least in the case of Vista - Microsoft advertizing wasn't really telling the truth and should be taken with some tons of salt.

The progress made here: When MS tried to brainwash them about how Vista was the best thing since sliced bread, it didn't became public. Now it does.

That's a tendency it seems. In the recent history, when the Suisse / Romanian / Dutch governments spent milllions on Microsoft software, nobody noticed, then they noticed but almost nobody complained, and nowadays Microsoft can't sell them software without the whole issue becoming public and people starting to complain. Cases like this are discussed in the parliaments (in NL), sometimes even by the presidents of countries (such as Brazil/ Cuba) or sometimes even the government is 'sued' for only looking at Microsoft (this happened in CH).

I see the awareness of what Microsoft is doing increasing, year and year again. And Microsoft is probably helping the awareness by warning Best Buys employees that it would be possible customers could be coming to them asking for 'something else than the newest Windows', or even they could be asking for Linux or Ubuntu!

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