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Helios - right again
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@JaseP
You've done what I could not imagine possible: I'm now starting to like bland corporate naming:
Photo Mule
Pretty Painter
but definitely not
The Artist formerly known as GIMP
You've done what I could not imagine possible: I'm now starting to like bland corporate naming:
Photo Mule
Pretty Painter
but definitely not
The Artist formerly known as GIMP
Somebody should present those names to the GIMP Develop. Team, if they don't like those suggestions, THEN we can give 'em, "The FINGER."
Yep: FART. Had that graphic in my blog
Fast Art Rendering Tool
And don't think for a moment I didn't seriously consider it.
Fast Art Rendering Tool
And don't think for a moment I didn't seriously consider it.
JaseP,
You may not know of it, but finger is a command. However, like much of bash on Mint, seems not to be part of the current set loaded into bash. I checked:
$ finger --help
The program 'finger' can be found in the following packages:
* finger
* finger-ldap
Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
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I am uncertain I ever used it, but I remember reading command line jokes where it was used. Indeed the punch line may have matched your last line.
YBT
You may not know of it, but finger is a command. However, like much of bash on Mint, seems not to be part of the current set loaded into bash. I checked:
$ finger --help
The program 'finger' can be found in the following packages:
* finger
* finger-ldap
Try: sudo apt-get install <selected package>
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I am uncertain I ever used it, but I remember reading command line jokes where it was used. Indeed the punch line may have matched your last line.
YBT
Finger is used to get stats of users on your computer, quite little handy tool :D
(I never ever though of the name in that way)
(I never ever though of the name in that way)
Quoting:(I never ever though of the name in that way)
Neither did I, I am afraid to know what else is there.
In the 10.10 Ubuntu menu, gedit is called "Text Editor". It used to be "gedit Text Editor" which while not offensive was confusing to casual users. If GIMP were set up so that in the menu it was called "Image Editor" instead of "GIMP Image Editor", that would be a great start.
When GIMP starts up we get the flashscreen which has "GIMP" displayed prominently - easy to change a flashscreen.
The title bar of the running application is GNU Image Manipulation Program - not offensive.
So this appears to be something that could easily be corrected: change the name of the menu entry and change the flash screen. The GIMP devs should be able to do that easily enough by the time 2.8 rolls around (by 2020 ha ha).
When GIMP starts up we get the flashscreen which has "GIMP" displayed prominently - easy to change a flashscreen.
The title bar of the running application is GNU Image Manipulation Program - not offensive.
So this appears to be something that could easily be corrected: change the name of the menu entry and change the flash screen. The GIMP devs should be able to do that easily enough by the time 2.8 rolls around (by 2020 ha ha).
Quoting: You may not know of it, but finger is a command.
Not in all CAPS, it's not...
JaseP,
YBT
Quoting:Not in all CAPS, it's not...Right, but my read command is preceded by an i, meaning ignore case. Thus, Case Closed: I am right as usual.
YBT
So we're both right. One more & we got ourselves a left...
Quoting:So we're both right. One more & we got ourselves a left...
Behind? or Out? or without anything?
I give up, what is our reward for our sterling performances?
YBT
JaseP: An impasse is usually the beginning of an lengthy LXer thread, not the end! Ahum.
hans -
LXer threads have ends?
LXer threads have ends?
Oh dear, just as I was getting ready to throw fuel on the embers. Well, here goes anyway. Sorry, Scott.
A lot of Free Software, including GNOME and KDE, already have some hefty work in them to be accessible to people with handicaps and disabilities. On-screen keyboards, speech synthesizers, high-contrast and low-contrast visual themes, large print, screen magnifiers. IIRC, one of the Knoppix CD's even has speech synthesis in the boot loader. That's no mean feat, if you ask me.
Yet, we don't call the speech synthesizer "4I's" (that's "four-eyes"), and we don't call the screen magnifier "Soda Bottle". It would nullify all the hard work of Sun Microsystems and the broader X consortium. Nor do we call the on-screen keyboard "Wacky Hands" or "Twitchy Fingers".
And who would dare belittle Adrian Hands, who did GNOME development with a Morse key on his leg? Gnome Bugzilla 7851, comment 19
We (well, some of "we") have done all this work, not primarily for the profit motive, not to get government contracts that mandate accessibility (I'm looking at you, Microsoft), but because it's simply the right thing to do.
And in the middle of it all, what's supposed to be the crown jewel of the GNOME project, is this very nice graphics editor with a really stupid name. Joni Eareckson Tada may be quadriplegic and an excellent painter, but I doubt she'll be using The GIMP any time soon.
Flame away, flamers.
A lot of Free Software, including GNOME and KDE, already have some hefty work in them to be accessible to people with handicaps and disabilities. On-screen keyboards, speech synthesizers, high-contrast and low-contrast visual themes, large print, screen magnifiers. IIRC, one of the Knoppix CD's even has speech synthesis in the boot loader. That's no mean feat, if you ask me.
Yet, we don't call the speech synthesizer "4I's" (that's "four-eyes"), and we don't call the screen magnifier "Soda Bottle". It would nullify all the hard work of Sun Microsystems and the broader X consortium. Nor do we call the on-screen keyboard "Wacky Hands" or "Twitchy Fingers".
And who would dare belittle Adrian Hands, who did GNOME development with a Morse key on his leg? Gnome Bugzilla 7851, comment 19
We (well, some of "we") have done all this work, not primarily for the profit motive, not to get government contracts that mandate accessibility (I'm looking at you, Microsoft), but because it's simply the right thing to do.
And in the middle of it all, what's supposed to be the crown jewel of the GNOME project, is this very nice graphics editor with a really stupid name. Joni Eareckson Tada may be quadriplegic and an excellent painter, but I doubt she'll be using The GIMP any time soon.
Flame away, flamers.
Joni Eareckson Tada has probably never heard of GIMP, and more likely than not has only ever heard of PhotoShop. Even i she has, I'm quite sure she won't associate the name with a Photo/Graphics Editing tool.
Also perhaps we should refrain from calling software a tool, that's not a very nice thing to call someone over here. It might be considered polite to refrain from doing so in case there are any people offended by the term.
Also perhaps we should refrain from calling software a tool, that's not a very nice thing to call someone over here. It might be considered polite to refrain from doing so in case there are any people offended by the term.
It's not a nice thing to call a person in the US, either. But the term "tool" has a clear, non-personal meaning, from which the personal insult is derived. "Gimp" has no such; its personal insult predates the Free Software meaning, and non-computer people associate the term more with the personal insult than with Free Software. Making the case of what Free Software can be, and can do for people, is hampered considerably by such a stupid name for an otherwise sophisticated program.
Ken is right, no matter how many silly non-pertinent examples are dredged up. There is no downside to software developers being considerate and user-centered, other than having to emerge from tunnel vision once in awhile.
@tc -
Shame on you! How dare you suggest that developers act in the same manner as mere decent human beings.
Shame on you! How dare you suggest that developers act in the same manner as mere decent human beings.
gus3: Sadly, there's nothing to flame when we agree.
I'm with the majority (as it appears)
Change the name!
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Hey, not so hasty there...
There's;
Gnu-Tard = GNU Total Art Rebranded Designer
GAG = GNU Art Gizmo
GING = Ging Is Not Gimp
& BARF = Badly-named Art Rebrand Foundation
All are on par with GIMP.
PS: One better than GING;
FINGER = Finger Is Not Gimp Entirely Rebranded