Miguel de Icaza Starts New Company To Drive Mono
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@dinotrac.....I pretty much said precisely the same thing way, way back in this thread. Their choice (and they go into it with their eyes open), but it's not mine. I certainly wouldn't try to prevent them using Mono, but I reserve the right to indicate that I think it's................ "unwise" (?) There - that can't offend anybody, surely ?
@Krisum, yes thanks to Mono I am no longer depenent on Microsoft or Windows to program, and deploy software , I can do all of that on Linux without having to abandon knowledge I have gained over the years.
TA: Great to hear I'm wrong! I still wonder how long .NET will remain relevant in the future. Sure, on the desktop it will; but I wonder about the mobile space. I think .NET was designed in first place to enable developers to use the language they're already familiar with.
Not related to .NET, but a while ago I tried MSH. But it was so different from Bash, I decided not to use it - as I already knew it was going to take me too much time. At the same time, lately I have been trying to write some VBA-scripts; but I find the language really hard. So I settled for a little AutoIT, but I can't get the VB scripts to behave like I want. Those skills are pretty useless on Linux (VB maybe not, but Solidworks VBA is!); so it would be great if on both I could use the same language. For example, AutoIT for Linux would sound great.
Not related to .NET, but a while ago I tried MSH. But it was so different from Bash, I decided not to use it - as I already knew it was going to take me too much time. At the same time, lately I have been trying to write some VBA-scripts; but I find the language really hard. So I settled for a little AutoIT, but I can't get the VB scripts to behave like I want. Those skills are pretty useless on Linux (VB maybe not, but Solidworks VBA is!); so it would be great if on both I could use the same language. For example, AutoIT for Linux would sound great.
Microsoft owns so many patents that to be perfectly safe one should not use any alternative distribution, or Mac OS.
Seriously.
At some point you have to accept the risk that Microsoft (or any other company) could do this to any interface in the kernel, desktop, package, ISO design, any component of the stack.
This is why RedHat and other companies have built patent portfolios of their own to defend against such attacks. Fortunately, there are no cases of Microsoft exerting their patent portfolio in this regard (though others have).
FSF's campaign against Mono is nothing more than fear mongering. They are trying to kill Mono using the same Fear Uncertainty and Doubt tactics that they chastise Microsoft for using. The only reason for this is that the FSF consists of people that hate Microsoft, and hate proprietary software.
Seriously.
At some point you have to accept the risk that Microsoft (or any other company) could do this to any interface in the kernel, desktop, package, ISO design, any component of the stack.
This is why RedHat and other companies have built patent portfolios of their own to defend against such attacks. Fortunately, there are no cases of Microsoft exerting their patent portfolio in this regard (though others have).
FSF's campaign against Mono is nothing more than fear mongering. They are trying to kill Mono using the same Fear Uncertainty and Doubt tactics that they chastise Microsoft for using. The only reason for this is that the FSF consists of people that hate Microsoft, and hate proprietary software.
@fewt.....just a couple of things......and I am startled by your post........
1.So, by your first sentence's logic, we should all be using Windows and only Windows in order to be safe from law suits; and
2. The FSF is an organisation (my interpretation of your text) that resorts to any FUD tactics whatsoever to kill Mono.........I really am curious: DO you have any direct evidence of this "hatred group within FSF" ?
Unless of course, your post is a deliberate flame-bait and designed to throw petrol on the coals.
1.So, by your first sentence's logic, we should all be using Windows and only Windows in order to be safe from law suits; and
2. The FSF is an organisation (my interpretation of your text) that resorts to any FUD tactics whatsoever to kill Mono.........I really am curious: DO you have any direct evidence of this "hatred group within FSF" ?
Unless of course, your post is a deliberate flame-bait and designed to throw petrol on the coals.
1. Yes, which is as silly and ridiculous as the FSF proclamation that no-one should use mono.
2. http://en.windows7sins.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mono_(software) #NPOV:_Free_Software_Foundation.27s_warnings
Of course what I said is "flame bait", it's not status quo. You shouldn't be startled by my post, my opinion about the FSF's FUD campaigns is no secret.
2. http://en.windows7sins.org/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mono_(software) #NPOV:_Free_Software_Foundation.27s_warnings
Of course what I said is "flame bait", it's not status quo. You shouldn't be startled by my post, my opinion about the FSF's FUD campaigns is no secret.
That's it...........I'm out of this entirely..........And it's goodnight from me, and it's goodnight from him.....
Good night.
This undead thread is a zombie!
That's because of the Rupture.
People are making Rapture jokes like there's no tomorrow.
Well it's tomorrow here. You notice I said it with a Kiwi accent. I did notice less cars on the road this morning though.
I hear Family Radio is a non-prophet organisation
HELLO, Are there any other survivors out there? All I have is a baseball bat, and a pickup truck. I don't know how long I can hold them off.....
Did anybody actually buy tickets for this Rap Tour?
OMG! I find myself agreeing with Dinotrac throughout the thread. Maybe the world did end yesterday after all. :)
@caitlyn --
Nah. Having seen the light, the darkness is gone and the world seems like a new and wonderful place.
Nah. Having seen the light, the darkness is gone and the world seems like a new and wonderful place.
dino,
Be truthful, you are now in rapture because the surgery performed on the 21st cured your rupture.
Case Closed,
YBT
Be truthful, you are now in rapture because the surgery performed on the 21st cured your rupture.
Case Closed,
YBT
@txt -
Had my wife take a picture of me feeling so good --- a no-rupture rapture capture picture.
Had my wife take a picture of me feeling so good --- a no-rupture rapture capture picture.
Caitlyn: Hey, don't feel bad, it can happen to the best of us! I have been through that pain as well, though not recently. Still scarred however.
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