Dell Announces A Linux Laptop Designed for Developers
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Dell Announces A Linux Laptop Designed for Developers
Klint Finley | May 7th
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Bingo. Anyone want to bet Dell's Microsoft license is up for renewal later this year?
And Win8 is coming out soon too...
So home-built PC with Asus mainboard,Intel cpu, Samsung hard drive,Corsair memory,and Antec case/power supply, to go with my Samsung netbook were the recommendations I took, and haven't regretted since. Don't think it costed me more than Dell would have either.Not saying Dell is cr@p,but I was not exactly steered their way.
-- a Dell "Linux" netbook ('scuze me, "ultrabook") or laptop, or
-- a similar Apple netbook or laptop, running Linux?
To me the choices of Dell or Apple you're restricting yourself to,seem to force a compromise between either dubious cost-slashing approach to quality but Linux support vs attention-to-detail quality but supporting a Linux-unfriendly patent-terrorizing high-profit-margin proprietary-wall-building company.
On the other hand, with my powerful number-crunching , quiet, cool-running desktop due to last for many years,I may opt for a 1Kg 200$ long battery life ARM-based Genesi Linux smartbook of the type reviewed here by the Bodhi Linux guy,though a later more powerful generation perhaps.
A $250 or so 10" Acer netbook from Walmart reloaded with Linux. They don't seem to be on Walmart.com any more though, so time may be limited.
Fair, perhaps. But if you can't afford it, it doesn't matter how fair it is.
Which has what to do with Bernard's question? You're always dissing the independent Linux shops.
As to Bernard's Apple vs. Dell question, since I have zero recent experience with Apple I am not qualified to answer that one. I'll point out that touting System76 or ZaReason doesn't answer that question either.
I am much likelier to buy System76 or ZaReason than either Apple or Dell equivalent.
But I'm still curious about the comparative merits -- with and without Linux -- of the Apple versus Dell hardware (also someone (friends &/or family) is sure to ask me, and I don't have an answer).
Reloaded, gus. The ones I've seen come with Windows 7 Starter Edition. I haven't looked into what would be involved in doing so, but the Acer Aspire One's have traditionally been doable.
> But I'm still curious about the comparative merits -- with and without Linux -- of the Apple versus Dell hardware (also someone (friends &/or family) is sure to ask me, and I don't have an answer).
I wish I knew more myself. Historically, Apple hardware has been of significantly higher quality than Dell hardware. But now that Apple is using essentially of the shelf x86 hardware, I'm not sure that's the case. It probably still is, as Apple is aiming for the "a premium product at a premium price" market, but it's not a given.
The real question is how is service when it does break. Every product line has units that fail. A good company handles those failures for you. Bad ones don't. Dell is at best in the middle of the pack, some would argue the lower quarter. I've had both good and bad experiences with them (but if I'm buying a Dell for my personal use I usually buy off lease Dell equipment from http://www.dfsdirectsales.com/ where the warranty is virtually non-existent anyway). Apple is usually rated fairly highly, but again I've heard of both good and bad experiences. I suspect if you live near an Apple store, it makes things much easier.
Personally, I prefer to buy off lease equipment or bare bones kits and save money. So far, I've had good luck doing so. The one new Dell I've purchased was my Mini 9, and it was on sale for $225 at the time, which was too good a deal to pass up.
Is it? Sticking an Intel CPU in, in the place of a PPC CPU, doesn't suddenly make your HW "off the shelf". There's a lot more to HW than the CPU choice, like how you put it all together. In the notebook world, there's a huge difference in quality between, for instance, a Lenovo Thinkpad X or T series, and an HP (or insert some other cheap brand), even though they may have the exact same CPU and northbridge. The displays are different, the keyboards are different, the chasses are different (Thinkpads have a magnesium chassis), etc.
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@Khamul,
I understand all of that, but considering all the costs of getting windows running properly, it is pretty hard to believe that the cost of pre-installing Windows isn't much much higher than Linux. Once a Linux version is certified, and that could be done with help of the community, how much of a cost it would be to clone a disk? No more than 5 minutes of very low labor.
Besides, if for some reason their cost is unbearable, why not offer no OS machines?
Dell never intended to support Linux, it was just playing games.
The only bias I have, and I don't hide it, is only due to their shenanigans documented on the Internet. I don't see the same type of games from any other OEM. HP offered Linux on some of their PCs long time ago, I actually bought two of them (EVo 500 in 1998) and they stopped right after that. They didn't play the same type of games Dell did and still at it.
How many times Dell offered Linux on some models to go back withdrawing them shortly after citing lack of interest in Linux without even a little attempt at marketing it? Wouldn't you be biased?