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Story: Did Bill Gates Invent Linux and Has He Erased the Evidence?Total Replies: 5
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Oct 24, 2005
8:14 AM EDT
Microsoft may remove stuff from its website, but if the Internet Archive linked to it, its there forever!

Oct 24, 2005
8:23 AM EDT
You're right. Here's the link to exhibit 1901 used against the plantiff's witness:

Just remember a couple of things: 1) robots.txt can kill the archive. 2) you have to hold your mouse of the original link and right click. Then choose from the context menu - copy link location, then enter it in:

And while this is fun and exactly what we did to find the LA Times article about astroturfing, many links are not in the archive.

Thank you for bringing this to everyone's attention, it can help many learn to research.

Very Good!

Oct 24, 2005
1:51 PM EDT
Is there any connection at all to Jack Abramoff in all of this? Was he connected with Microsoft (or Gates' relative's (father or father-in-law?) law firm) during this time? Just curious.

At any rate, I got beat to the suggestion of the Internet Archive for recovering some of these articles. Good job! I doubt if Congress will raise an eyebrow to this. Still, it's very 1984-ish.

BTW, I recommend reading Lessig's book, "Free Culture", which also points to the Internet Archive, and which points out some of these kinds of issues when dealing with so-called "intellectual property" law. It might seem boring, but it's a pretty good read.

Oct 24, 2005
1:59 PM EDT
DC: Everyone seems to have an interest in keeping Jack Abramoff tied up leagally, they just don't want him involved where Microsoft, PGE and the BSA get pulled into the frey.

I find it interesting how Tom DeLay got booked in Texas and the House Ethics committee has failed to call a hearing. If someone wanted to go after Microsoft, I believe they could make it very messy for them by looking at money laundering, political influence peddling, potential issues with the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act, etc.

But, I think that redmond has enough political capital that it won't touch them. That's an opinion not a statement of fact.

Thanks for the tip on Free Culture.




Oct 25, 2005
5:12 AM EDT
For anyone who has read George Orwell's 1984, going back and changing previous news articles was a standard procedure. That was the job of one of the characters. Another's job was to rewrite the standard dictionary to restrict the thought process and what could be expressed. Writing in the late 1940's, Orwell had become disenchanted with Communism since he had seen the changing of history and words as being part of controlling a society. The Internet allows individuals in control to distort history and political correctness allows special interest groups to restrict what can be said. There is a definite need to save old websites to compare to what we are told they said.

Oct 25, 2005
9:06 AM EDT
Louis: Your synopsis bolts right up with Microsoft Dictionary. I can't remember how long it's been, but they indeed got into trouble with some definitions that crossed over the boundaries of monopoly and Microsoft. Also, I've heard that Bill Gates "Encarta" entry changed silently in the manner in which you describe.

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