if you really want to write something useful...

Story: The Future of Flash in LinuxTotal Replies: 15
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tuxchick

Nov 05, 2007
8:57 AM EDT
...how about finding out when this great, rich, innovative proprietary company is going to release 64-bit Flash? Oh I know, it takes Awesome Talent to re-compile a 32-bit application for 64-bit. But isn't that what great, rich, innovative proprietary companies are good at?

**edit** Awww, it appears that once again I am too harsh on matt twitley and poor old victimized Adobe, because Adobe has posted a Solution to this: http://kb.adobe.com/selfservice/viewContent.do?externalId=6b...

"Solution To use Flash Player to view Flash content on a 64-bit operating system, you must run a 32-bit browser."

What a great solution! Chock full o details and everything. I guess I need to quit being so mean.
techiem2

Nov 05, 2007
9:06 AM EDT
Yeah, cuz we all just LOVE closing our 64 bit browser with all it's tabs so we can open the 32 bit copy to view that youtube vid... Or use 2 different browsers so we can always have a 64 bit and 32 bit one open....
jdixon

Nov 05, 2007
9:36 AM EDT
> if you really want to write something useful

Uhm, TC, did you miss the "By Matt Hartley" at the top? Aren't useful and Matt Hartley contradictory terms?
Bob_Robertson

Nov 05, 2007
9:36 AM EDT
I don't understand, I have no problems in WinXP.

[Sarchasm: the distance between the maker of a sarcastic comment, and the person who just doesn't get it.]
herzeleid

Nov 05, 2007
9:37 AM EDT
Quoting:Yeah, cuz we all just LOVE closing our 64 bit browser with all it's tabs so we can open the 32 bit copy to view that youtube vid...
Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not just dump the 64-bit browser? Wouldn't that simplify things?
jdixon

Nov 05, 2007
9:37 AM EDT
> I don't understand, I have no problems in WinXP.

Is that the 32 bit or 64 bit version? :)
jdixon

Nov 05, 2007
9:39 AM EDT
> ...but why not just dump the 64-bit browser?

Maybe the 64 bit version works better in a 64 bit OS?
Bob_Robertson

Nov 05, 2007
10:02 AM EDT
> Is that the 32 bit or 64 bit version? :)

I dunno, it came with the machine.

Ok, I lying completely. Never mind.

I did put 64-bit Debian onto my Mom's new laptop until I found out that neither flash nor GoogleEarth work on it. Oh well, it's not like the 32bit version is noticeably slower.
dinotrac

Nov 05, 2007
10:04 AM EDT
>Maybe the 64 bit version works better in a 64 bit OS?

Oddly, no.

More often than not, if there is a difference, the 32 bit versions of software seem to work better.

That's not because 32 bit is better than 64 bit, of course, but because the software was developed on a 32 bit platform by people who didn't think that they were doing anything architecture-specific.
jdixon

Nov 05, 2007
10:12 AM EDT
> Oddly, no.

I'll keep that in mind. There's no "official" 64 bit version of Slackware, so I've never tried a 64 bit system. My latest machine is apparently 64 bit capable however, so I may try one out sometime in the future. There are at least two unofficial 64 bit versions of Slackware available.
bigg

Nov 05, 2007
10:35 AM EDT
Is there any possible advantage to running a 64-bit browser? I can understand a 64-bit OS, as for some tasks you get a big performance improvement, but with a web browser?

According to the Flash Linux developers, it is not easy to get a native 64-bit version of Flash:

http://blogs.adobe.com/penguin.swf/2006/10/whats_so_difficul...
tuxchick

Nov 05, 2007
10:52 AM EDT
Well bigg, as I recall from early blog entries Adobe pretty much plucked two devs at random who had zero Unix or Linux experience and told them "you will now make Linux."

However, the blog that you posted sounds like maybe they've gotten past the initial learning curve and are now well into Crappy Proprietary WeirdStuff.

jdixon, I know I shouldn't read hartley's stuff because it is so awful and so irritating. But sometimes I lack willpower :)
Sander_Marechal

Nov 05, 2007
12:30 PM EDT
Quoting:Maybe I'm missing something here, but why not just dump the 64-bit browser? Wouldn't that simplify things?


Ah yes. The browser. The application I use 92.13% of my time. I might as well use a 32-bit OS then. Easier to maintain if I don't have to keep around a 32-bit subsystem. Which is exactly what I currently do BTW. Running Debian i386 on an AMD64 because I need flash (can't avoid it in my webdesign work, and telling my girlfriend she can't play Neopets anymore would probably get me killed).
dinotrac

Nov 05, 2007
12:34 PM EDT
> and telling my girlfriend she can't play Neopets anymore would probably get me killed).

My sympathy. I am similarly fearful of telling my otherwise sweet young daughters that they cannot play Webkinz.

Nope. Gotta keep the flash.
hkwint

Nov 06, 2007
4:52 AM EDT
Quoting:and telling my girlfriend... would probably get me killed


Quoting:My sympathy. I am similarly fearful of telling my otherwise sweet young daughters


Free LXer market analysis: Women are causing the software lock-in.

/me ducks and waits for TC and other women to arrive
dinotrac

Nov 06, 2007
5:07 AM EDT
/me ducks and waits for TC and other women to arrive

Ducking makes sense. Waiting around, however, is a good way to get yourself sliced to ribbons.

Good luck!

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