HP pushing MS products...

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Aug 23, 2008
3:41 PM EDT
Can anyone produce a legitimate photo of an HP product which says on the front that it recommends MS systems? How about anything in print saying the same thing/ Needed for an upcoming article. I need all the references anyone can produce.


Aug 23, 2008
4:15 PM EDT
How about a retail box with the system specs? "Windows Vista Home Premium" in big white letters.

Aug 23, 2008
5:20 PM EDT
I believe Windows contracts require the phrase on the advertising, rather than on the products themselves. The products get a sticker that says something like "Designed for Windows Vista."

Aug 23, 2008
8:09 PM EDT
If their website counts if you go to hp.com then click on the home/home office link it says at the top of the screen that hp recommends windows vista home premium.

I have never gotten any of their print stuff so I don't know about that, but if it's anything like Dells then even after 7 years and many phone calls you'll still get mail spam bombarded will windows recommendations.

Aug 24, 2008
10:35 AM EDT
If their website counts if you go to hp.com then click on the home/home office link it says at the top of the screen that hp recommends windows vista home premium.

LOL...THAT is what I was looking for

looking under the bed when it was on the dresser in plain sight. Oh boy are they in for some sheit...watch boh.

Aug 24, 2008
11:09 AM EDT
Let em have it H!

Aug 24, 2008
12:09 PM EDT
On non-US sites it's even worse, or better for you.

http://welcome.hp.com/country/nl/nl/welcome.html (In Dutch, I'll help:)

At the bottom of their FRONT PAGE it says:

HP en Windows Vista® ('en' means 'and').

OK, click it. Now you're at http://welcome.hp.com/country/nl/nl/welcome.html

On the left it says 'recommended (aanbevolen) systems for Windows Vista'.

It also links to a 'startpage' (startpagina) of HP and Microsoft. Good for you, it's in Engish.


Amongst others it leads to HP favouring OOXML:


Nice quote: "HP believes that the international standardization process is working."

Also, the Dutch site links to:


(Getready for Vista pages).

Back to the 'recommended systems for Vista', I'm here;


The left picture features English subtitles, the right one says: 'HP PC's of today, ready for tomorrow'.

I follow one link in the left lower corner, and end up at this English page:


Notice the HP / Microsoft 'Frontline partnership'.

Hmm, further it's much the same as the US page. Look here, their home office page:


Right upper corner: HP recommends Vista.

I'm curious for their 'school' offerings. I'm at the Dutch site again:


Their, it offers "HP Microsoft security". (Yes, one sentence).

That must be enough.

BTW: Please let me know: Do I have to sell my HP-stocks?

All righty then,


Aug 24, 2008
12:14 PM EDT
BTW I could provide letters from HP's EU-legal department in Germany telling me they don't offer a refund for XP while they don't feel XP's EULA obliges them to do so (Italian judge felt different about the case however). Tell me if you need it, I'll fix my scanner-drivers if you do.

Funny thing is: Acer does have a refund policy for Windows XP.

Aug 24, 2008
12:22 PM EDT
Oh, you sure as hell don't want to miss this one.


Their 'Education special'. It's in Dutch, but it doesn't matter. Skip almost all pages. It's edu-yada-yada. Really, actual content. Things to read. Things which edu-minded Netherlands finds interesting. Don't mind and scroll right down to the last page. Yeah, you're seeing this right. In their 'Education Special', probably sent to edu-/IT decision makers in my country, there's only 1 software-add.

Aug 31, 2008
11:31 PM EDT
This is absolutely infuriating. Here's the deal folks. I accepted the invitation to the 2nd annual Linux Foundation Consortium with one goal. I wanted to turn up the heat on "corporate Linux" to help Market "the product". Yeah, I know we've discussed it...sometimes loudly with less than gentle overtones but regardless of how much "code" the big boys put into the Linux Pool...who is the beneficiary of that work in the end.

They are...it is an incidental benefit to our community...

So ok, the ends justify the means but that doesn't quell the fact that Linux is, in many aspects, far superior to Windows and people need to know they have a choice. It's not the Job of HeliOS Solutions to change the world...only let people know they have a choice and make a few bucks doing it.

And no...You Tube isn't going to cut it. You Tube is "pull" technology" We need "push" technology. TV, Radio and the such. I said once that if we don't start marketing "our product", someone with lots of money and a mediocre Linux distro would do it for us. Crap...too late, they already did.

It's called goS. What a raging success that is. LInux as a product isn't going to gain the market share it needs unless some really deep pockets step forward.

On the first day, I took the mic and asked the panel (names and organizations will be clearly outlined in an upcoming article) point blank, when they were going to help market Linux. Man, you could have heard a mouse burp...finally, the HP guy started to form an explanation but while he was stumbling around for something to say, the IBM guy jumped in and said.

"we don't recommend systems...we recommand solutions">

Doesn't IBM Sleep with Leveno? They have Vista pasted all over their recommendations, just like HP does.

So, I am not going to be too worried about people's feelings. I am calling bullcrap on this whole "we recommend solutions" garbage.

Thank you for your help. I've been away for a bit but now I'm back and able to take care of bid'ness.

We will be open for "Bid'ness" starts in a few hours.


Sep 01, 2008
3:44 AM EDT
Quoting:"we don't recommend systems...we recommand solutions"

Apparently solutions for providing payments for MS and all the security vendors...and the phishers...and spammers....

Sep 01, 2008
5:20 AM EDT
@helios: Try this PDF: http://h20331.www2.hp.com/Hpsub/downloads/EnergyStar_June08_...

It's a HP promotions folder for pimping enegry efficient computers (energy star). It has a big fat "HP recommends Windows Vista Business" slapped on to it.

Sep 01, 2008
2:36 PM EDT
Yeah, finding a "smoking gun" is always gratifying...but finding the entire arms cache is even better. Thank you all for your help. My schedule has quite frankly kicked my narrow @$$ lately...this is of immense help.


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