but how?
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| Author | Content |
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| tuxchick Jun 07, 2009 1:58 PM EDT |
How did Free Software Magazine end up with such a terrible host in the first place? There are more Web hosting services than humans on the planet, and they end up with these bozos? Hosting services are notoriously scammy and terrible, it is buyer beware all the way. Webhostingtalk.com is a great place to research Web hosting services. Spamhaus and Spamcop also have lots of useful information. |
| caitlyn Jun 07, 2009 2:24 PM EDT |
Yes, it's hard to imagine. I could have recommended some good hosting companies but nobody asked me :) |
| tuxchick Jun 07, 2009 2:45 PM EDT |
haha, yes they should have asked you. It's not FSM's fault that 3FN are slimy, it just goes to show what a minefield the Internet is. |
| TxtEdMacs Jun 07, 2009 3:00 PM EDT |
tc,Quoting:It's not FSM's fault that 3FN are slimy ...Would you have the same reaction, If they were just looking for Weapons of Mass Destruction? Remember this is the feds, they sometimes shoot first and ask questions afterwards, or let some nut shoot first and have themselves investigated for not acting more promptly given that they were warned. Call me nasty names, like ... skeptical, commie, fanatic Linux nut. YBT |
| techiem2 Jun 07, 2009 3:09 PM EDT |
They didn't shoot first and ask questions later, this is more like carpet bombing first and asking questions later. I imagine that all their legal clients are quite upset right now. |
| TxtEdMacs Jun 07, 2009 5:20 PM EDT |
Hey tech..., I was just being polite, no intention of starting an on-line war. Oh my, " ... carpet bombing ...", can we presume the damn spot has been successfully removed? YBT |
| tuxchick Jun 07, 2009 6:11 PM EDT |
Nobody died, nobody even got shot at. 3FN got shut down because they are accused of being active participants in a lot of dirty businesses. If 3FN unwittingly had some dirty customers then shutting them down would have been unfair and over-reaching, but that's not the case here. |
| tracyanne Jun 07, 2009 6:21 PM EDT |
Still seems like overkill to me. For the sake of the legit customers the way this has been handled will have dire if not fatal consequences for the businesses of many. |
| techiem2 Jun 07, 2009 7:25 PM EDT |
Right TA, that's what I felt.
There must be some way to balance ensuring no evidence is lost while not destroying the businesses of the legitimate clients by cutting them (and their clients) off from their sites (and data, which could be everything from simple customer lists to customer financial data, etc. that they may not have a backup of) for some indefinite amount of time with no warning.
I don't know what it would be course...but there's gotta be something better.
*shrug* |
| gus3 Jun 07, 2009 8:09 PM EDT |
Quoting:Nobody died, nobody even got shot at.Aw, man... |
| tuxchick Jun 07, 2009 9:15 PM EDT |
gus, I shot at some clay pigeons yesterday... does that help? |
| gus3 Jun 07, 2009 10:56 PM EDT |
A woman after my own heart! But really, double-aught? As the saying goes: "The way to a man's heart is through his ribcage with a really sharp knife." |
| caitlyn Jun 08, 2009 12:31 PM EDT |
Did anyone notice just how bad the grammar and usage is in this article? If that represents the quality of FSM maybe it would have been OK if they had been put out of their misery. Did anyone else click through to the FTC site and read the complaint? 3fn is accused of hosting child pornography and various schemes to defraud the public and steal identities (i.e.: phishing schemes). They are also accused to deliberately shielding their shady customers from investigators and doing all they can to obstruct the investigation. Under these conditions I don't think there was any choice but to shut them down. |
| mercmobily Jun 12, 2009 12:30 PM EDT |
Hi, @caitlyn: 1) Have you *actually* read any other article published in FSM? 2) Are you seriously making assumptions about the quality of FSM _as a whole_ based on an article written in a hurry, while I was obviously going through a rather stressful chain of events? 3) Contents is free. Patches are welcome. Finally: "Under these conditions I don't think there was any choice but to shut them down." Yes there was. Merc. |
| caitlyn Jun 12, 2009 12:50 PM EDT |
No, I've never read any other content on the site. After reading this I don't think I will in the future. Let me rephrase: considering we're talking about fraud and child pornography I am very glad 3fn was shut down. I think it was the right thing for the government to do. |
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