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Linux syslog may be on the way out

Posted by lcafiero on · 5 comments
IT World; By Brian Proffitt
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In an effort to foil crackers attempts to cover their tracks by altering text-based syslogs, as well as improve the syslog process as a whole, two Red Hat developers are proposing a new binary-based tool called The Journal that could replace the syslog daemon in as early as the Fedora 17 release.

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Comments (5)

Security through obfuscurity again? System error messages tend to be cryptic enough even when they're in plain text. Here's help in ignoring even the ones we watch out for.

Fortunately, as Ubuntu is proving as its sturdy undercarriage shows up in Mint condition, the Internet interprets brain-damage as brain-damage and routes around it, albeit with a lot of pointing and snickering.
> Security through obfuscurity again?

Pretty much, yeah. I really thought the Red Hat folks had more sense than to repeat old mistakes. Apparently not. It's not like the binary format won't be hacked within weeks and tools developed to rewrite it.

And it's not like no one foresaw this problem. That's why you can redirect your logs to another system.
It isn't a matter of obscurity, but rather verifiability / authenticity.
But aren't there better ways (some even already RFC'd) to "fix" these supposed problems?

And does this proposal even actually enhance verifiability / authenticity -- even leaving aside the downsides?

The same technique (progressive signatures) is what revealed the tampering in the kernel.org git repos. So I'd say yes.

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