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Ubuntu more secure than Leopard, Windows Vista?
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Well, considering the prize was money plus the laptop...that would seem to be a nice incentive to try your best...
Of course, there is the possibility that nobody tried because they hadn't figured out any 0day vulns for Ubuntu to even try to exploit.
http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/19/cansecwest-pw... Gives a good explanation overall of how it was conducted.
http://dvlabs.tippingpoint.com/blog/2008/03/19/cansecwest-pw... Gives a good explanation overall of how it was conducted.
If by "Linux conspiracy" you mean various individuals conspire on a daily basis to create secure operating systems. You bet! :D ;)
techiem2: Ah, thanks, "monetary incentives" indeed usually work ;)
land0: I'd like more conspiracies like this... ;)
land0: I'd like more conspiracies like this... ;)
There is a significant loop hole, the same cracking code (technique) cannot be reused. Maybe the Apple Air was simply more attractive, certainly more expensive. The same might have been true with regard to the Vista machine. Think of the hardware necessary to run it! Therefore, Ubuntu not being cracked alone does not imply it is truly hardened against all attempts.
It would be nice to believe but there is too little to conclude Ubuntu is as superior as some might wish to believe. Perhaps unidentified machines with hidden OS might be a better test, if they really are able to pass themselves off as something other than they are. MS was purposely crashing (or forbidding entry, forgot which) to Opera browsers, the work around was to pretend it was a Windows variant. How do you think MS got those high percentages? They love pirates and identity hiding.
Edit: I use Ubuntu.
It would be nice to believe but there is too little to conclude Ubuntu is as superior as some might wish to believe. Perhaps unidentified machines with hidden OS might be a better test, if they really are able to pass themselves off as something other than they are. MS was purposely crashing (or forbidding entry, forgot which) to Opera browsers, the work around was to pretend it was a Windows variant. How do you think MS got those high percentages? They love pirates and identity hiding.
Edit: I use Ubuntu.
Perhaps they should make the prize money higher for the Linux box, that way we can be more certain they are trying. But given that the source code for most of the software running on the Linux box, with the exception of flash itself, is freely available, one does wonder why the Linux box wasn't easily pwned.
Quoting:Perhaps unidentified machines with hidden OS might be a better test, if they really are able to pass themselves off as something other than they are.
Very good idea. Now who will sponsor us with money + a laptop to offer as a reward for this quest?
He worked on both the Vista and the Ubuntu machines to try to get his exploit to work.
Quoting:Macaulay spent day three switching back and forth between the two machines, trying to get his Flash exploit to execute properly.http://www.theregister.co.uk/2008/03/29/ubuntu_left_standing...
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I'm not really amused by the results, because I sense a nice potential to cheat: the guys who tried to hack Ubuntu simply might have not tried hard enough, just to prove it's more secure. Linux conspiracy? You bet! ;) Could someone explain how this was prevented?