What to expect from Ubuntu 8.10
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In contrast to what the article says, I don't think of Hardy as all that "stable" at the moment. Maybe six months from now it will be more stable, but it's bleeding-edge enough that I can't fully recommend it just yet.
For the three-year desktop support period, it's probably a good thing that 8.04 comes with the Firefox 3 beta and OpenOffice 2.4, but right now there are problems. One of my boxes doesn't like FF 3 as well as FF 2, and Google Gears -- which I really want to use -- doesn't work (or doesn't work easily) with FF3.
OpenOffice has worked fine, though.
I've moaned enough about my USB flash drive problems. Yes, I know I can hack into Gconf and fix the problem (and I will as soon as I can get a little time in front of the box), but the distro for the rest of us shouldn't make me do that.
As far as the regular Ubuntu release schedule goes, I'm not comfortable with a major upgrade that often, especially if things are working at the moment.
At least Ubuntu supports the non-LTS releases for -- what is it? -- 18 months, so I can stick with a given release for that long if I wish.
While there are still a few things that work better in Ubuntu than just about anywhere else, I'm sticking with Debian (some Etch, some Lenny) for my everyday boxes.
Still ... this part intrigues me:
Yeah, there's always one feature that intrigues me enough to do the upgrade -- or to test it, anyway. ... That's how Ubuntu gets you.
For the three-year desktop support period, it's probably a good thing that 8.04 comes with the Firefox 3 beta and OpenOffice 2.4, but right now there are problems. One of my boxes doesn't like FF 3 as well as FF 2, and Google Gears -- which I really want to use -- doesn't work (or doesn't work easily) with FF3.
OpenOffice has worked fine, though.
I've moaned enough about my USB flash drive problems. Yes, I know I can hack into Gconf and fix the problem (and I will as soon as I can get a little time in front of the box), but the distro for the rest of us shouldn't make me do that.
As far as the regular Ubuntu release schedule goes, I'm not comfortable with a major upgrade that often, especially if things are working at the moment.
At least Ubuntu supports the non-LTS releases for -- what is it? -- 18 months, so I can stick with a given release for that long if I wish.
While there are still a few things that work better in Ubuntu than just about anywhere else, I'm sticking with Debian (some Etch, some Lenny) for my everyday boxes.
Still ... this part intrigues me:
Quoting:Seamless Internet connectivity has always been a challenge on Ubuntu Linux, particularly for users moving between the home, the office and the road. Over the past two releases the WiFi capabilities of Ubuntu have improved a lot - roaming mode was long overdue - but switching between connections is still annoyingly difficult. Improvements in this area alone will make Intrepid welcome.
Yeah, there's always one feature that intrigues me enough to do the upgrade -- or to test it, anyway. ... That's how Ubuntu gets you.
Quoting:Yeah, there's always one feature that intrigues me enough to do the upgrade -- or to test it, anyway. ... That's how Ubuntu gets you.
I saw that and laughed, I've got that capability on my machine already. Once again Cannonical are trumpeting as innovative something in Ubuntu, that is already available to Linux.
Heh...yeah...
I have no problem moving my laptop between locations.
I turn it on, it connects to the available configured wireless network...it even seems to handle hopping between access points at work fine (they are all configured with the same SSID).
And I'm not using some fancy gui wifi manager...just gentoo with wpa_supplicant - of course, that means if I need access to a new protected wifi network I have to add it into the config manually, but I kinda like that.
Now moving between two different networks with the machine fully up and running, that I haven't tested (I guess that would be proper roaming).
"Yeah, there's always one feature that intrigues me enough to do the upgrade -- or to test it, anyway. ... That's how Ubuntu gets you."
Again, as I mentioned before, that one killer app -type feature for me is getting flash-player/gnash to work seamlessly on Linux for PPC. Debian Etch for PPC somehow just cannot do this. Yeah, yeah, I' know about the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) Daily Build for the PowerPC. Still just doesn't do it right.
Again, as I mentioned before, that one killer app -type feature for me is getting flash-player/gnash to work seamlessly on Linux for PPC. Debian Etch for PPC somehow just cannot do this. Yeah, yeah, I' know about the Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) Daily Build for the PowerPC. Still just doesn't do it right.
Ubuntu is still supporting PowerPC? I thought they were done with it.
> I don't think of Hardy as all that "stable" at the moment.
I've got Hardy installed on my office machine right now, running Slackware 12.1 in a virtual machine. Talk about a contrast. Everything works the way it's supposed to in Slackware. And I've got the latest version of every application I need for my work. True, I had to compile a half dozen of them myself, but it's easy and the SlackBuilds are very high quality. A small price to pay if you ask me.
I hadn't realized it before but it appears full-featured with lots of bugs is more appealing to the newcomer than having everything work. Thus, we're on to the next development cycle with even more features and even more bugs.
I've got Hardy installed on my office machine right now, running Slackware 12.1 in a virtual machine. Talk about a contrast. Everything works the way it's supposed to in Slackware. And I've got the latest version of every application I need for my work. True, I had to compile a half dozen of them myself, but it's easy and the SlackBuilds are very high quality. A small price to pay if you ask me.
I hadn't realized it before but it appears full-featured with lots of bugs is more appealing to the newcomer than having everything work. Thus, we're on to the next development cycle with even more features and even more bugs.
Quoting:but it appears full-featured with lots of bugs is more appealing to the newcomer than having everything work.
Well, it's not much different at where they come from, isn't it...
Quoting: Well, it's not much different at where they come from, isn't it...
You're referring to Debian, I presume? To which do you refer: Etch, Lenny or Sid?
I think he's referring to Windows, as in the newcomers going from Windows to Ubuntu and being willing to accept bugs.
> Talk about a contrast.
Well, duh. :)
> Everything works the way it's supposed to in Slackware.
Of course. It's Slackware. :)
Slackware, the anti-Ubuntu.
Well, duh. :)
> Everything works the way it's supposed to in Slackware.
Of course. It's Slackware. :)
Slackware, the anti-Ubuntu.
Duh to rijelkentaurus! Duh duh duh. Sorry, I was assuming the link between Ubuntu and Debian.
@Steven_Rosenber
"Ubuntu is still supporting PowerPC? I thought they were done with it."
IIRC, I think that either Dapper Drake or Feisty Fawn was indeed the last _officially_ supported PPC K/X/Ubuntu version for PPC. The Gutsy Gibbon and Hardy Heron Ubuntus for PPC, OTOH, are Daily Builds maintained by the _community_ instead .
IIRC, I think that either Dapper Drake or Feisty Fawn was indeed the last _officially_ supported PPC K/X/Ubuntu version for PPC. The Gutsy Gibbon and Hardy Heron Ubuntus for PPC, OTOH, are Daily Builds maintained by the _community_ instead .
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