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Opinion: The Road to Geekdom
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The Road to Geekdom
TC, Yes!
Good read
Couldn't agree more. worth a read.
I make a habit of praising Carla's writing ...
I couldn't agree more...
Great as always.
Don't fear outsourcing if you're in US
13 earlier comments in the full thread.
Kind of busy people, but:
Glad you finally noticed. Voting here is an exercise to keep the unwashed in place. However, unlike other dictatorships you need only to keep the results close so the comfortable journalist class does not have to pay attention or feel guilty for not doing the job that should be expected of them. Fix just some machines and the results seem real.
I cringe when the jerks in the executive criticize other countries for doing exactly what is happening here, well almost. In Russia those being murdered are trying to play the role of a real free press, not a mouth piece for the State.
Quoting:> What you're seeing is the US implementing Fascism.
Agreed. They're not calling it that, but that's what it is.
Glad you finally noticed. Voting here is an exercise to keep the unwashed in place. However, unlike other dictatorships you need only to keep the results close so the comfortable journalist class does not have to pay attention or feel guilty for not doing the job that should be expected of them. Fix just some machines and the results seem real.
I cringe when the jerks in the executive criticize other countries for doing exactly what is happening here, well almost. In Russia those being murdered are trying to play the role of a real free press, not a mouth piece for the State.
Jezuch, yes, it clicked after I'd already replied. Sorry about that.
About 1993, while I was working at NASA (before my evolution to complete distaine for the state), we were deploying network equipment and doing monitoring for the Russian space agency in Moscow. Several of the high-level engineers came over to see and learn what we were doing and how.
We got to talking, as engineers will, and let's just say that their reactions to middle-class California were both consistant and frightening. These weren't peasants, these were the elite of Soviet engineering.
There. That's almost computer related...
About 1993, while I was working at NASA (before my evolution to complete distaine for the state), we were deploying network equipment and doing monitoring for the Russian space agency in Moscow. Several of the high-level engineers came over to see and learn what we were doing and how.
We got to talking, as engineers will, and let's just say that their reactions to middle-class California were both consistant and frightening. These weren't peasants, these were the elite of Soviet engineering.
There. That's almost computer related...
Oh, so as opposed to Russia, the murdered people in the USA were just mouthpieces for the State?
In case you hadn't noticed, the popular press in the USA are no longer mouthpieces for anything but the Democratic Party. Donation rolls and surveys of published reports confirm this time after time. They'll investigate Republicans until the cows come home, but their own people get a free pass... until they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, at which point the pre-fabbed editorials (some masquerading as "news") get trotted out to shore up public opinion once more.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php
It's going to happen again shortly.
In case you hadn't noticed, the popular press in the USA are no longer mouthpieces for anything but the Democratic Party. Donation rolls and surveys of published reports confirm this time after time. They'll investigate Republicans until the cows come home, but their own people get a free pass... until they get caught with their hands in the cookie jar, at which point the pre-fabbed editorials (some masquerading as "news") get trotted out to shore up public opinion once more.
http://mypetjawa.mu.nu/archives/194057.php
It's going to happen again shortly.
> Glad you finally noticed.
Txt, I think you have me confused with someone else. I've been noticing for over 30 years now. :(
But, as I've noted elsewhere, this is a battle that was lost a long time ago.
Txt, I think you have me confused with someone else. I've been noticing for over 30 years now. :(
But, as I've noted elsewhere, this is a battle that was lost a long time ago.
> ...the popular press in the USA are no longer mouthpieces for anything but the Democratic Party.
Well, yeah. But if you haven't noticed, the most recent steps towards fascism have been taking place under a Republican Party administration.
So the Democrats want socialism, while the Republicans are trying for fascism. Neither party has any use for a limited government with strictly defined powers anymore. The only option for those supporting the ideals the US was founded on are third party candidates, many of whom can't even get on the ballot in most states.
I agree with TxtEdMacs that voting is a waste of time, but unfortunately I also feel it's an obligation. So I waste my time on occasion.
As noted in other recent articles, it's especially a waste of time with most electronic voting machines, as their tallies can be trusted less than the distance you can throw one. Nothing that couldn't be solved with open hardware, open software, and a documented paper trail, but do you see anyone in power even suggesting such? There, now it's computer/FOSS related. :)
Well, yeah. But if you haven't noticed, the most recent steps towards fascism have been taking place under a Republican Party administration.
So the Democrats want socialism, while the Republicans are trying for fascism. Neither party has any use for a limited government with strictly defined powers anymore. The only option for those supporting the ideals the US was founded on are third party candidates, many of whom can't even get on the ballot in most states.
I agree with TxtEdMacs that voting is a waste of time, but unfortunately I also feel it's an obligation. So I waste my time on occasion.
As noted in other recent articles, it's especially a waste of time with most electronic voting machines, as their tallies can be trusted less than the distance you can throw one. Nothing that couldn't be solved with open hardware, open software, and a documented paper trail, but do you see anyone in power even suggesting such? There, now it's computer/FOSS related. :)
ok, so has this thread gotten totally off track or what? ;-)
Gotta stick to FOSS people...
Gotta stick to FOSS people...
Party pooper.
;)
;)
I like how gus3 came in all "TOS" and everything, and then got corrupted into participating. :^)
Don't worry Scott this isn't a political discussion. When the republicans are mentioned it is just a figurative way to Mention MS, the democrats represent apple, while the 3rd parties are FOSS.
See nothing to worry about. :)
See nothing to worry about. :)
That proves it to me, Bob is like rust. It may take a bit to get started but once it does it slowly takes over.
This can be taken good or bad as your viewpoints merit. Personally I think a little more of Bob's and JD'd common sense would go a long way in curing a lot of societal (and FOSS) ill's.
This can be taken good or bad as your viewpoints merit. Personally I think a little more of Bob's and JD'd common sense would go a long way in curing a lot of societal (and FOSS) ill's.
"a little more of Bob's and JD'd common sense would go a long way in curing a lot of societal (and FOSS) ill's."
But that would be ... ANARCHY!
Mmmmm... Be Excellent To Each Other. Party on, dude.
But that would be ... ANARCHY!
Mmmmm... Be Excellent To Each Other. Party on, dude.
Is it still anarchy when everyone agrees?
That's archy.
A thought, why is it called "Common Sense" when it doesn't seem that it's all that common at all?
an-archy: rules without rulers. Consensual relationships, voluntary interaction.
This is very much the way F/OSS is organized. Each project has its own internal rules, and if you don't like those rules you don't participate in that project.
Neither can anyone force anyone else to participate, donate, contribute or use anything.
Rules have evolved based upon mutual agreement, tradition, and common sense.
Each contributor owns what they contribute, while recognizing that the complete systems are the property of those who install and use them. Private property, the basis of capitalism.
F/OSS is, in its functioning, a perfect example of anarcho-capitalism in reality not just theory.
This is very much the way F/OSS is organized. Each project has its own internal rules, and if you don't like those rules you don't participate in that project.
Neither can anyone force anyone else to participate, donate, contribute or use anything.
Rules have evolved based upon mutual agreement, tradition, and common sense.
Each contributor owns what they contribute, while recognizing that the complete systems are the property of those who install and use them. Private property, the basis of capitalism.
F/OSS is, in its functioning, a perfect example of anarcho-capitalism in reality not just theory.
Yeah, all my fault Scott. Starting to talk about IT-jobs in the US and how they might stay in the US was not a smart thing to do; it's almost a flamebait. But it keeps our fellow LXer'ers happy it seems; and I'm just starting to begin to comprehend a little bit of all this money-talk. And after all, money and economy are related to FOSS.
How it got out of hand and the topic changed to Socialism and Fascism and which US party is brought most friendly on TV (could have guessed that. Indeed; thinking in only two countries: US and THEM)-- I still don't know.
So, here's my advice: To all ya workin' in the US, you better start caring about something else than who's the most on TV, because your next boss will be Chinese, Russian or Saudi (or that may already be the case, if you don't work for some defense industry or Microsoft). In fact, that's a _good_ thing, because all bosses coming from the US screwed up. It happened the same to Dutch DAF (lorry company): The Dutch wouldn't sell it to foreigners, the Dutch government invested millions but it didn't work, and after some foreigners bought it and became new bosses everything went right again (actually, a company from the US bought it). Same for ABN-AMRO: It isn't Dutch anymore, but that's only good since the Dutch boss(es) screwed up (really big BTW). Bad thing is the new Belgian bosses screwed up also, so it's time for a new foreign boss from another country to clear up the mess. If you want to have bosses from your own country, look at Alitalia and see what happens.
You shouldn't care about who wins elections; there are only two candidates which both have a nose and two ears, and probably two feet too, and both make promises they can't live up to and they both have to work with the same mess their predecessor left to them. All that is just a circus, meaning not important and a waste of time and forum space. Remember, that was just my advise.
My conclusion is still I think outsourcing of IT jobs from the US to Asian countries will slow down because all of this. That should be good news for a lot of my fellow LXer readers, provided I'm right.
How it got out of hand and the topic changed to Socialism and Fascism and which US party is brought most friendly on TV (could have guessed that. Indeed; thinking in only two countries: US and THEM)-- I still don't know.
So, here's my advice: To all ya workin' in the US, you better start caring about something else than who's the most on TV, because your next boss will be Chinese, Russian or Saudi (or that may already be the case, if you don't work for some defense industry or Microsoft). In fact, that's a _good_ thing, because all bosses coming from the US screwed up. It happened the same to Dutch DAF (lorry company): The Dutch wouldn't sell it to foreigners, the Dutch government invested millions but it didn't work, and after some foreigners bought it and became new bosses everything went right again (actually, a company from the US bought it). Same for ABN-AMRO: It isn't Dutch anymore, but that's only good since the Dutch boss(es) screwed up (really big BTW). Bad thing is the new Belgian bosses screwed up also, so it's time for a new foreign boss from another country to clear up the mess. If you want to have bosses from your own country, look at Alitalia and see what happens.
You shouldn't care about who wins elections; there are only two candidates which both have a nose and two ears, and probably two feet too, and both make promises they can't live up to and they both have to work with the same mess their predecessor left to them. All that is just a circus, meaning not important and a waste of time and forum space. Remember, that was just my advise.
My conclusion is still I think outsourcing of IT jobs from the US to Asian countries will slow down because all of this. That should be good news for a lot of my fellow LXer readers, provided I'm right.
> My conclusion is still I think outsourcing of IT jobs from the US to Asian countries will slow down because all of this.
I'd say you're correct in the long term, but probably not in the short term. There's too much inertia in the "outsourcing trend" for it to be reversed overnight. It will take a couple of spectacular failures for that to happen. Fortunately, those have been in the works for a while now.
I'd say you're correct in the long term, but probably not in the short term. There's too much inertia in the "outsourcing trend" for it to be reversed overnight. It will take a couple of spectacular failures for that to happen. Fortunately, those have been in the works for a while now.
You are all fine, I was heading it off at the pass, and I think it worked too.
Quoting:I like how gus3 came in all "TOS" and everything, and then got corrupted into participating. :^)I warned about "TOS" (and I wasn't the only one) because I could see it going where the eds might delete. When they didn't, I figured they didn't care (yet).
@hkwint:
It may be a messed-up circus, but by $DEITY, it's our messed-up circus. ;-)
Quoting:it's our messed-up circus. ;-)
Well, probably it's the most popular circus in the world, since it's on TV in almost any country! I like to watch also, as a way of entertainment.
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