Debian women may leave due to 'sexist' post

> I just got up and got on LXer minutes ago. I am sorry.

Don't worry about it, Scott. You have to sleep some time.

Sleep is for Humans, and I am something far more fantastic and mundane...wait a second...that doesn't make any sense..

I guess I am Human..darn it. ;-)

Quoting:I hope that thing was not up for long,

It was up long enough for me to read it, last night my time.

Well, I missed it anyway and thought TxtEdMacs had gone nuts talking gibberish to his illusion-only mind-friend. Reading what happened brought some relief: Right now I only think TxtEdMacs has gone nuts.

TxtEdMacs has not gone nuts, he's been nuts for some time now...lol!

Trust me, I know. I could tell you why I know but then I'd have too...well you know..;-)

OK -- Maybe the F word was bad form (sorry) but some of you are reacting pretty harshly, and badly. lol, if you thought I was talking about you, then I guess I was. I made a couple good points but all anyone could see was a cuss. Too bad.

Please understand machiner, not being able to express yourself without cursing has never been tolerated at LXer. From long before my time here till long after I am gone, which I hope is not for a long time but still.

As I said before, try it again without cursing and there will be many who take you much more seriously.

> I made a couple good points but all anyone could see was a cuss. Too bad.

As I said, that's not appropriate here. A single letter and a simple set of *'s would have gotten the idea across, and probably not have been a problem.

Scott & Others,

I think you have unintentionally done machiner a favor by deleting his post. I found the content to be obscene. The cuss word or two that did not offend me and they were in keeping with the tone and content of his message. Next time edit the offending word, but leave the message that glorified ignorance and his unqualified certitude based on zero evidence for others to judge.

Ignorance is curable, stupidity is not. Absent future brain enhancements there is no hope for the latter. Therefore, the latter has become my operational assumption to evaluate any future post bearing his byline. Indeed, his self satisfied apology is indicative he has learned Nothing.

Scott, if you can I request that you retrieve his post. Edit the few words and let others see the terminal vacuity that is too evident.

Thanks, Txt.

Sorry guys and gals once I hit delete, its gone and there's no coming back.

LXer and LWN are my two models of successful news sites with great reader communities and discussions. This doesn't happen by accident-- like it or not, it requires leadership, rules, and enforcing the rules. Over at Brand X I inherited a bit of a mess-- there were some long-time trolls and chronic sourpusses that nobody had ever bothered to rein in, and the TOS was not enforced. So I had to put on my bad-cop hat, turbo-charge the delete button, and make a few "shape up or ship out" posts. Since then the overall tone has improved a lot and I'm seeing some new names showing up in the talkbacks. It doesn't take many bad actors to chase people away and leave you stuck with a little in-group of flamers that nobody else wants to play with.

TC -

Good for you. But whatcha goin' to do if I get time to go back?

Such a short memory, dino. I already told you your personal microphone is waiting for you whenever you want it. Of course given current economic conditions I can't guarantee it will be turned on. Current economic conditions, yeah, that's it.

>Current economic conditions, yeah, that's it.

BTW -- Have you met my wife, Elizabeth Taylor -- the YOUNG Elizabeth Taylor?

Thank You Carla, you mentioning us in the same breath as LWN I take as a high compliment.

And you are right, it does not happen by accident. I know there are those here who have not thought kindly of me at one time or another because of my forum policing. But the end result is that which you see before you. Forums that are inclusive, not exclusive. Free of off topic tirades, hate, good ole' fashon TOS violations and of course vulgarities. ;-)

In essence forums that make you want to participate, not stay away.



Still, is there anyone here who can send me back in time about a week or so with some lightning bolts in my hands? I got something I really really want to take care of with them..;-)

> Free of off topic tirades,

Now, tirades I'm willing to grant, but being off topic is hardly a rarity here. :)

Of course, in that regard, I'm at least one of the primary culprits, so....

Quoting: BTW -- Have you met my wife, Elizabeth Taylor -- the YOUNG Elizabeth Taylor?

Yes I have, dino, she is making a movie with my husband, the Young Skinny Elvis.

Yeah, I guess your right about the off topic stuff jdixon. It sounded great when I typed it though..

Thanks, Carla, for giving the trolls and other obnoxious posters on LT the heave-ho. It's made a huge difference to the quality and tone of the discussion. In the past I was a regular reader of LT, but left for LXer when it first went "on the air". I signed up for an account on LXer, but chose not to reveal that I was a woman because of past experiences elsewhere. Happily this was an unnecessary precaution. From the get-go I was comfortable participating at LWN. So bottom line: LWN and LXer have the best discussion forums, with LT making fast tracks to join this august company. FYI, Carla, I'm now a regular reader of LT.

Barbara

> chose not to reveal that I was a woman because of past experiences elsewhere

There's just something beautiful about being anonymous, isn't there? I've been called a coward (not here) because I post anonymously. In my opinion my identity should be irrelevant. Evaluate my arguments for what they are, not based on my skin color, education, income, or resume.