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This week at LWN: KDE struggles with feature requests
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Caitlyn, your people are from Freedonia?
No, but maybe someone did cheer "Hooray for Captain Spalding!".
The Marx family were Jewish immigrants from Germany, as was my grandfather, though he came much later. The relationship goes back to my great grandparents' generation.
The Marx family were Jewish immigrants from Germany, as was my grandfather, though he came much later. The relationship goes back to my great grandparents' generation.
No fair. Everyone else has ancestors who were famous or royalty or something. Mine were ordinary. Some of them grew grapes and made wine. Big woop.
Getting back on topic. And I am not sorry. It seems that some sort of tool for recording and tracking user feedback is long overdue. Make pretty graphs and report summaries, and give devs a picture in aggregate of what users think is important. I think bug tracking could use something similar, it seems to me the existing bug trackers are pretty bad. There is nothing to catch duplicates, they're hard for bug reporters to use, they're hard to search, and there aren't any good triaging mechanisms. I think something that organizes all this data into manageable snapshots would go a long way towards relieving developer angst. Or at least give them fewer excuses to ignore users.
Getting back on topic. And I am not sorry. It seems that some sort of tool for recording and tracking user feedback is long overdue. Make pretty graphs and report summaries, and give devs a picture in aggregate of what users think is important. I think bug tracking could use something similar, it seems to me the existing bug trackers are pretty bad. There is nothing to catch duplicates, they're hard for bug reporters to use, they're hard to search, and there aren't any good triaging mechanisms. I think something that organizes all this data into manageable snapshots would go a long way towards relieving developer angst. Or at least give them fewer excuses to ignore users.
Quoting:No fair. Everyone else has ancestors who were famous or royalty or something. Mine were ordinary. Some of them grew grapes and made wine. Big woop.
I think if we could all trace our family trees back far enough we'd find somebody famous in them.
Look, you don't want my family history anyway. Both my parents were Holocaust survivors. Lots of the family wasn't that lucky at the time. My father fought in two wars after that. You know how my gradfather's branch of the family ended up in Germany? Escaping the Spanish Inquisition in the late 15th century. Trust me, being boring and growing wine sounds pretty good.
Getting back on topit? Bah! This is LXer.com. We don't need no stinking topics.
Hmm... Something about the Mayflower, William the Conqueror, and a few other things.
Who cares about family history anyway, they're dead. Let's MAKE history.
Who cares about family history anyway, they're dead. Let's MAKE history.
Completely OT but if you do some simple math you discover that you have around 1 billion ancestors going back only 30 generations i.e. around 600 years. Plenty of room for famous folks there (as well as overlap ewww)
Aw who needs celebrity ancestors anyway. What I really want are the kind who remember me generously in their wills.
You have rich people in your family, tc? Must be nice...
The Royal Clan Stewart here.
Of course, lots of people would have to die before I could ascend the throne.
Or some watery bint lobs a scimitar at me...
Of course, lots of people would have to die before I could ascend the throne.
Or some watery bint lobs a scimitar at me...
Clan Montgomery here.
We are connected to the EU royalty somewhere along the line.
(Dad's a big genealogy buff)
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/o/n/Mark-D-Mont...
(should tell Dad to update that page....)
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/m/o/n/Mark-D-Mont...
(should tell Dad to update that page....)
PFFF. . . European family history can only go back so far. . . .My great Uncle has been able to trace our family history back to 18BC. To the Japanese, family lineage is very important.
Now, in our long family history there has been everything from scoundrels to royalty. Me, I am the 46th generation of the Ouchi family.
Back on topic: I am currently using Kubuntu with KDE3x, I'll move to KDE 4x with the next Kubuntu LTS release.
Now, in our long family history there has been everything from scoundrels to royalty. Me, I am the 46th generation of the Ouchi family.
Back on topic: I am currently using Kubuntu with KDE3x, I'll move to KDE 4x with the next Kubuntu LTS release.
Och really gus3? I am from clan Wallace.
@mont:
LOL. I went to school with one of your clan, except that it was only traced patrilineally. His family tree was mostly English. ;-)
LOL. I went to school with one of your clan, except that it was only traced patrilineally. His family tree was mostly English. ;-)
Quoting:Add a stand alone file manager and a stand alone auto-mounter and explain why I need a DE at all?
OK, here's the dirty hack I used for the "no DE auto-mounter" problem:
Just install whole freakin' KDE4, but don't actually 'use' it. That means, don't use the 'startkde' command. "wmaker" is still in my .xinitrc (since 2005 I believe; before that I was using BlackBox but it was a bit too spartan), and I still use it. For those of you who don't know WindowMaker: It's ugly - unless you remove _all_ icons like I did. Also, wmaker is unmaintained; or depending on your view it's "fast and stable"; never breaks, never changes. Most important: It's the quickest way to run Ktorrent, Kontact, Konsole and whatever. When using these programs in a non-KDE window manager, it's better to install whole KDE because if you only install KMail and KTorrent on their own, some things may not work. For example when clicking a http link in KMail it didn't start a new tab with that address in Firefox - always gave errors - until I installed whole freakin' KDE; then my problem was gone.
Then, if you need to 'automount' something, just start dolphin, click on the volume you want, and then you can minimalize or even close dolphin. Done! Start your graphical term (I use Konsole nowadays, but any term will do), and you can happy cp or mv to /media/disk/"whatever KDE decided" from the shell.
I had some 'manually configured' auto-mounter in the past, and I did have some manually written udev-rules in the past, but none of it is used anymore (if that's possible, I'm not sure how KDE handles auto-mounting) since I have Dolphin. You see, that's what's great about KDE, you can decide for yourself what parts you want to use and which parts you don't want to use.
The only real problem I have is that I'm using Gentoo, so installing KDE4 (still keyworded / unstable, meaning lots of auto-unmasking) is no joy at all.
Another interesting thing to mention is I was so tired of Amarok being slow (more than 30 sec to start!) I'm using 'cmus', an ncurses music player - ri
@gus3
Not many English in my line. Here is my great grandfather:
[url=http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/wa-wh.htm#George Wallace (South Adelaide)]http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/wa-wh.htm#George Wallace (Sou...[/url]
He was a great photographer as well....
Not many English in my line. Here is my great grandfather:
[url=http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/wa-wh.htm#George Wallace (South Adelaide)]http://www.fullpointsfooty.net/wa-wh.htm#George Wallace (Sou...[/url]
He was a great photographer as well....
On automounting without a DE:
Vector Linux Light uses VL-Hot, which is a lightweight replacement for HAL that can handle most of what you want. It won't automount a CD/DVD when inserted, but it does most everything else. It's mostly scripts plus a GUI front-end configuration tool written in Gambas so it should be possible to get it to work with any distro. There's no overhead (as in the HAL daemon running all the time) and no need to install KDE, which is frankly huge.
See: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/02/vl-hot-a-non-polling-al...
That's an article I wrote on VL-Hot.
Vector Linux Light uses VL-Hot, which is a lightweight replacement for HAL that can handle most of what you want. It won't automount a CD/DVD when inserted, but it does most everything else. It's mostly scripts plus a GUI front-end configuration tool written in Gambas so it should be possible to get it to work with any distro. There's no overhead (as in the HAL daemon running all the time) and no need to install KDE, which is frankly huge.
See: http://broadcast.oreilly.com/2009/02/vl-hot-a-non-polling-al...
That's an article I wrote on VL-Hot.
Thanks Caitlyn. Wow, I must be ignorant, VL-Hot has been covered on LXer in February:
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/116305/index.html
http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/116305/index.html
Hans, I don't think you're ignorant. I think it's impossible to keep up with all the interesting Linux projects out there. VL-Hot gets very little coverage and hasn't been picked up by other lightweight distros which, IMHO, is truly a pity.
Sadly, there's not much documentation and I can only find how to download from SVN. Given that VL-hot doesn't work for CDROM's / stuff present at boot time I'm not sure it's worth the hassle.
You could download the Vector Linux package. It's just an lzma compressed tarball (Slackware package).
You are correct that you still have to manually mount a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM. Of course, something like the mount applet in Xfce works fine for that.
You are correct that you still have to manually mount a CD-ROM/DVD-ROM. Of course, something like the mount applet in Xfce works fine for that.
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