Fedora 12 beta code is go

Sad to hear, but probably to late to change I'm afraid?

Hans, you're probably right that they won't change it at this late date. I'm sure they didn't intend to offend but they clearly didn't do all their homework, either.

Caitlyn,

I am afraid it is you who didn't do the homework :-)

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/Names#Fedora_12_.28Co...

@caitlyn When I hear "Constantine" I think of the movie starring Keanu Reeves... :-)

@rahul:

If so, then it was the author of the article who did not do his/her homework.

And if so, this is the strangest choice of name I've ever seen. A quick search reveals nothing special about that county.

> A quick search reveals nothing special about that county.

Most likely one of the developers lives there, was born there, or some such.

No, nothing petty of that sort. The process is linked from the wiki page but it seems a couple of folks have missed it.

http://marilyn.frields.org:8080/~paul/wordpress/?p=1393

Anybody from the community (you don't even have to be a Fedora contributor) can suggest a name.

@rahulsundaram: If you look at the history of Fedora names you will find famous historical individuals but no small towns in Michigan. I've done my homework and I believe the article is accurate. If the release was names Constantine, MI I'd have no complaints.

Do you have any evidence that the article is inaccurate? Do you question the historical issues I've posted?

Caitlyn,

I am not sure what you are suggesting. I linked to two pages. The first wiki page explains the connections and the second blog post goes into more details on the process. Since the codename as used in Fedora has nothing to do Roman emperors, I don't see whatever historical issues as relevant. Codenames are supposed to be fun trivia and nothing more. No need to get all worked up over it.

On the other hand, if you want to do a good technical review, I would be interested.

Quoting:Since the codename as used in Fedora has nothing to do Roman emperors,

Well, the author of the article disagrees with you. So do I based on Fedora's naming history. What evidence, other than one link, do you have that the author is wrong?

You seem hung up on the name. Alright, lets go further. I am a Fedora contributor and I already gave you the links to explain the process more History of Fedora release names and the connections between them

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/History_of_Fedora_release_name...

Fedora Project does not randomly pick names. The names follow the guidelines as described in

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Guidelines_for_release_names

The Fedora 12 codenames in particular come from

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Name_suggestions_for_Fedora_1...

Hope that helps.

The onus has to be on the person who wrote the article, Caitlyn. The link from Fedora's site specifically says it's named for the place in Michigan, and also points to a Wikipedia article detailing the numerous other items "Constantine" can reference, including Constantine The Great, as history references him. The author cites no references to a Red Hat manager or employee stating that their codename references the Roman emperor.

And what about Fedora's naming history? Other than Leonidas (which actually references a ship in the US Navy), there is nothing like this in their naming history, they are about as innocuous as Debian.

Werewolf? Cambridge? Sulphur? Moonshine? C'mon, you're being ridiculous and it seems that you're just wanting to start and maintain an argument...a potentially religious one at that.

No, I don't want to maintain an argument. It also isn't a religious argument but is more about tolerance, which is what the article claimed the name was really all about.

The additional links were helpful, thank you. It does seem the article was all wet. My reaction to the article was just that, a reaction to a claim made in an article. If that claim wasn't true then my objection doesn't fit, does it?

Yes, which is what I tried to point out in the first place. I would encourage you to treat Register articles as amusing and entertaining rather than a accurate portrayal of anything. Now can I get your attention focused on a detailed technical review :-)

Of a beta? No, I don't review betas. It's intrinsically unfair to do so as we know there will be bugs. It's an unfinished work.

I smell a next victim for my No-CDROM problem...

Constantine the Emperor or Constantine, Michigan? The second is a pointer to the first. Some of you STILL don't understand pointers! Hmm ... was the first a pointer to something further back? Likely. That was the nice thing about Occam2 - no pointers.

Richard Arcana

I do understand. Someone wanting to name a distro release after a home town is completely different that directly honoring the memory of the emperor. Yes, that is undoubtedly where the name of the town came from. I guess I'd have a bone to pick with the town's founders but since they're long dead...

TOS.

> The second is a pointer to the first. Some of you STILL don't understand pointers!

Which is probably a pointer to his grandfather/uncle, which is probably a pointer to his grandfather/uncle, etc.,etc.,etc. And the original probably had nothing to do with anything. It's a name. It's been shared by probably thousands of people through the centuries.