OpenGL ES For KWin In KDE SC 4.7 Is Taking Shape

VB had _tons_ of trouble with Wizard 101, I think it's to do with 3D graphics. Although it ran (sort of) on WINE, it was dreadfully slow.

Pixie Hollow would run with VB, but speed issues plagued again.

Eliminating the need for VB on her system also allowed me to compile 2.6.36 for it, since the VB driver won't compile with .36, but works just fine with .35. Hartman's advice, "You can't keep up with that rate of change. Get your driver into the mainline kernel", comes to mind.

Almost like Microsoft is in cahoots with the game makers to make things as difficult as possible with us non-Win users. But then I watched Jessie Ventura's _Conspiracy Theory_ today, so my mind might be seeing what isn't there.

IIRC I enabled 'experimental 3D acceleration' somewhere in 3.0.2 or 3.0.4, and from then AD Inventor ran pretty decent. I think I configured it to use OpenGL though.

OK, sometimes a screwup - but such can be expected for experimental stuff.

been using the last few releases of fedora and kde. I like it the way it makes all the apps I use look the same whether gtk or anything else. I installed the I hate the cashew and keep my desktop clean and just use the taskbar at the bottom so I have a pretty clean desktop. I do like their netbook interface - it works pretty well.

do agree with hkwint about it loading slow. but I don't do a lot of logging out and in so it isn't an issue with me.

I think the latest kde versions are very usable and don't really have a problem with them. I actually prefer their 3d stuff to compiz but that is just me.

it is pretty much my main desktop for now at least until they decide to change it again. i used 3.5 all the time too and would prefer that if it was still around but kde 4 is growing on me.

so my mind might be seeing what isn't there.

Oh no! Simpering self-doubt is the first sign that they've gotten to you.

"Simpering"?

D'oh!

Oh, wait, that's "Simpsoning".

Think "coquettish".

jsusanka: Think you're right, if you don't care about the electricity bill or you can "hibernate / suspend" it's not that much of an issue.

Sadly, when I tried the desktop I hadn't hibernate working yet and bills are a concern for me, but I might try again.

> Think "coquettish".

Can't do that without running into a mental wall of submissive French Maids.

I love KDE but unfortunately all my machines are just too long in the tooth now and the one machine that i have that is good enough to run it is a windows only gaming rig so most of my machines run XFCE. Soon as i make some money to upgrade them they will be back running KDE except for the server which has a pretty basic install of XFCE on it and will remain that way.

The 2 desktops im most comfortable with are KDE and XFCE, for some reason i have never been able to like Gnome and cant understand its appeal but desktops are a very subjective thing so this is not a dig at Gnome or anything.

Koriel -

I'm with you. I have never understood the appeal of Gnome, but, what the hey -- different strokes for different folks.

I'm just greatful that XFCE is there for me to turn to after the KDE team decided they didn't want users like me any more. We had a ten year run, and that's pretty good in this business.

@dino, Gnome was completely Free before KDE was Free. If not for the QPL mucking things up, I doubt Miguel and Federico would have ever started Gnome.

gus3 -

KDE was great (and free) before Gnome amounted to a toeprint.

The issue with KDE was not freedom. No less an authority than the FPF agreed that the QPL was a free license. The issue was an alleged incompatibility between the QPL and the GPL.

History here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qt_(framework)#Licensing

Oops! Typo -- FSF.

Quoting:If not for the QPL mucking things up, I doubt Miguel and Federico would have ever started Gnome.

And now Mono is mucking things up, ahem.

But Mono is optional. You can still have a functional desktop without it.

It's within my Linux experience, that KDE wasn't possible without the QPL.

Possible? I think so, given that KDE develpment predated the QPL by about 3 years.

gus3: May agree on that. Still funny though, I'm pretty sure RMS is not condoning most of what Miguel is saying (OOXML, .NET support) nowadays. If QPL was a reason to advise people to use Gnome instead and start the Gnome project in first place, I think RMS is not very happy. I'm curious which of the two he would 'advise' from a FSF-viewpoint nowadays.

@dino, the predecessor to the QPL was the FreeQt license, which was not free according to both the FSF and the OSI. Distributing modified versions was forbidden.

According to WP, the QPL was first used in 1999, so that was after I started using Linux full-time.

Too many TLA's! And there's even a TLA in there. Gaah!

@hans, RMS wo... crap, yet another TLA... anyway, would probably say, "Just use GNewSense and then it won't be a worry."

@gus3:

Yup. The FreeQt license was not FSF-apporved and free by their definition, but that didn't stop the KDE developers.

The QPL was free, but the Debian folks raised boy cries wolf (my POV, others **ahem** differ) objection.