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Microsoft to Windows XP diehards: Just 3 more years' support
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Comments (36)
They need to just cut it off
7 earlier comments in the full thread.
Quoting:I'm sorry, I think these arguments are all cop-outs.
Really, in what way?
Quoting:If you like Windows, you should be using Windows 7.
But I don't like Windows.
Quoting:If you don't like Windows 7, then don't use an MS OS, or complain to MS and demand they fix it or else you'll take your business elsewhere.
I've already taken my business elsewhere, no complaints to Microsoft, in fact I've never even ever allowed the OS to send a bug report to Microsoft.
Quoting:XP is a ten-year-old obsolete OS, and needs to be retired.
It is indeed, and it indeed does. But so long as it continues to allow me to run the software I am forced, by the nature of my job, to run, I have no problem continuing to use it until I no longer need to run it, which will be a point in time sooner than Microsoft stop supporting it. I have no intention of renting yet another copy of Microsoft's crud.
Nikkels and Tracyanne
Exactly.
If we are forced to use Windows, we use what works best for us (which in many cases is still XP), not what MS SAYS works best for us (because they are always going to push the newest version as the "best", even when in many circumstances it clearly is not).
Just like how we use Linux (we don't pick our distros/des/programs/etc. based on what Person X [who doesn't know us] says is best for us do we?), pick a car to drive, everything else.
Exactly.
If we are forced to use Windows, we use what works best for us (which in many cases is still XP), not what MS SAYS works best for us (because they are always going to push the newest version as the "best", even when in many circumstances it clearly is not).
Just like how we use Linux (we don't pick our distros/des/programs/etc. based on what Person X [who doesn't know us] says is best for us do we?), pick a car to drive, everything else.
Try 'just upgrading' to Windows 7 when you're on a multi year project with NASA and 5 contractors and you've got all this software that won't play nice. Oh, and guess what operating system they're moving everything they can to (hint, when I interviewed I said "I'm a ???ux guy") and that really sealed the deal.
All You Guys && Gals,
Your all missing the most salient point in this thread, i.e. my position is being usurped by an impostor. I am the only, registered shill on LXer.
So Impostor Shill, be gone or pay the fee to register that allows you to huckster your wares. The Free does not mean no cost marketing on these fine forums.
YBT
Your all missing the most salient point in this thread, i.e. my position is being usurped by an impostor. I am the only, registered shill on LXer.
So Impostor Shill, be gone or pay the fee to register that allows you to huckster your wares. The Free does not mean no cost marketing on these fine forums.
YBT
@Txt, are your terms RAND (Reasonable And Non Discriminatory)?
A duel of the shills! To the death!
(is that RAND enough?)
Quoting: [...] are your terms RAND (Reasonable And Non Discriminatory)?
Absolutely not, as first come I claim exclusive rights to milk it for all its worth ... [ and beyond - that's shill's job]
As for a duels, I only go against sickly, ninety pound weaklings. Otherwise it is a track meet where they chase me while jumping over obstacles while I have a smooth path. Fair enough?
YBT
That sounds more like a M$ lawyer's strategy than a shill's strategy.
tracyanne wrote: But I don't like Windows.
Then you shouldn't be using it, at all.
If you're going to support a vendor, you need to use what that vendor tells you to use. Not some ancient version of their product that doesn't even support modern hardware and isn't supported by the vendor. If the vendor's current product isn't to your liking, then you need to find a new vendor.
> Not some ancient version of their product that doesn't even support modern hardware,,,
It's been my experience that XP supports far more hardware than any newer version of Windows.
It's been my experience that XP supports far more hardware than any newer version of Windows.
@jdixon --
Yes sir!
You're far more likely to find hardware not supported on Windows 7 than not support on Windows XP. Lots and lots of corporate users remain at XP for a variety of reasons.
Yes sir!
You're far more likely to find hardware not supported on Windows 7 than not support on Windows XP. Lots and lots of corporate users remain at XP for a variety of reasons.
Grishnakh, what if you need to use windows for certain apps, but your laptop doesn't support Windows 7 because its too old. What should I do then, trow the laptop away?
No, I'll use it because it does its job for me and works good.
I'm a big Linux fan/user/enthusiast, but sometimes I need to use windows for some development stuff. And if XP works good, why should I spend a couple of hundreds of euro's to buy Windows 7?
I'm a big Linux fan/user/enthusiast, but sometimes I need to use windows for some development stuff. And if XP works good, why should I spend a couple of hundreds of euro's to buy Windows 7?
Quoting:If you're going to support a vendor [...]
You are not even an honest shill. Where do you think you are posting? On a Windows® fan site? I would wager you never attended a certified Shill School, rather listening in through open Windows and cracks under The Doors*.
Scott tells me you have made no move to pay your LXer Shill Fee. Have you no shame? I am sorely tempted to sic the worst of Dino on you, be gone malicious Sir, before it is too late.
As always
YBT
* And you know what that will get you? An fixed term, timed lease on a burial site in France.
Quoting:Then you shouldn't be using it, at all.
I've already made it clear I would rather not, I do however have clients that PAY ME, and a requirement of being paid is that I use Windows. Everything I need to do for them works just fine on Windows XP, I see no need to rent a newer version of Windows, the rent has already been paid for this version.
Quoting:If you're going to support a vendor,
But I don't, I haven't paid them a red cent since I decided I would no longer support them.
Don't feed the troll!
And TA's a better person than I am. I already have too little sanity, so I can't afford to sell any of it.
Sanity? We don't need no steenkin' sanity!
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(Ooooops. Sorry. I transmorgified back to the days when I was a Windows Drone.)
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(Ooooops. Sorry. I transmorgified back to the days when I was a Windows Drone.)
And I thought my kind words would have ended this useless thread of nonsense.
TA, you are being too kind and considerate, follow the August Gus's lead. Walk away in disgust, please.
YBT
TA, you are being too kind and considerate, follow the August Gus's lead. Walk away in disgust, please.
YBT
@TxtEdMacs. Consider it done. Walking the Disgusted walk now.
And less than three until Windows alternatives thrive
Such as, to wit:
- Ubuntu and other of the more popular Linux distros
- Android on a subset of devices.... pending Microsoft's widely publicized patent threats and shady "deals" (e.g., the recent 'Microsoft Tax on Linux Devices' piece found at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/153377/index.html )
- The *BSDs
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Quote from The Register piece:
- Ubuntu and other of the more popular Linux distros
- Android on a subset of devices.... pending Microsoft's widely publicized patent threats and shady "deals" (e.g., the recent 'Microsoft Tax on Linux Devices' piece found at http://lxer.com/module/newswire/view/153377/index.html )
- The *BSDs
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Quote from The Register piece:
Quoting:Unsurprisingly, Rose took the opportunity to big up Windows 7, which Microsoft's Steve Ballmer separately announced yesterday had now reached 400 million licence sales worldwide since its retail release in October 2009OTOH, one can readily wonder When and How pundits such as Rose will either ratchet up their "bigging up" Windows 7 or else essentially give up and allow indefinite support for Windows XP --- should more and more persons completely switch completely away from XP unto Linux or unto other non-Microsoft OSs w/in the three year time-period ??
Well, Windows 8 is scheduled for next year I believe...so.....at some point here they will start pushing that.
I certainly hope more and more switch away.
what I would like to know about..
>>>Steve Ballmer separately announced yesterday had now reached 400 million licence sales worldwide <<<
Is this < boxes > sold and bought by the end user? Is this < preinstalled > and sold to the enduser ? Is this< preinstalled > but nodody knows if they are already sold to the customer/end-user.
Sorry, I really don't know. Whats your take ?
Is this < boxes > sold and bought by the end user? Is this < preinstalled > and sold to the enduser ? Is this< preinstalled > but nodody knows if they are already sold to the customer/end-user.
Sorry, I really don't know. Whats your take ?
Does that count Site Licenses with MAK licensing? (I assume they would count the full number of possible activations as the number sold)
Site Licensing with KMS licensing? (how many would they claim?)
etc. etc.
Yeah, I'd like to know exactly how that is calculated.
etc. etc.
Yeah, I'd like to know exactly how that is calculated.
Windows and Office and Exchange and Sharepoint are tanking. Hence Ballmer's brilliance in levying Microsoft taxes on Android and other FOSS.
That was fun, I don't get to say "hence" very often.
@tc -
Wait -- I thought you lived on a ranch. You don't keep chickence? If so, you should have figured out by now that the roosterce aren't going to provide many eggs.
Wait -- I thought you lived on a ranch. You don't keep chickence? If so, you should have figured out by now that the roosterce aren't going to provide many eggs.
TC...I know which direction any of those rotten eggs should be hurled...
dino, you should be ashamed of yourself. I know you are not, but you should be.
And why would anyone want to buy Windows software here? Besides, it is way too hencespensive.
dino, you should be ashamed of yourself. I know you are not, but you should be.
And why would anyone want to buy Windows software here? Besides, it is way too hencespensive.
Unrepentant and reprehence-ible louts!
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I am sorry to say this , but you are talking through your.... <<If you like Windows, you should be using Windows 7 >> I should be using what I prefer, not what you prefer! <<If you don't like Windows 7, then don't use an MS OS, >> I don't have to use a product that 'you' like, just what I like! << or else you'll take your business elsewhere >> So, all of a sudden you are my manager ? Funny, I thought "I" was running my business. <<XP is a ten-year-old obsolete OS, and needs to be retired..>> And you are so darn technically superior that you know what is good for my business. Congrats ! <<then you need to use the OS they recommend >> I think I can make my own recommendations. <<If W7 doesn't suit you, then maybe you shouldn't be using MS products.>> Again, the same BS....people, bow for MS, they are the all knowing, bla bla bla
FYI, biggest part of my technical//computer life, I have been maintaining Windows based systems, from banks to insurance companies to networks in hospitals. WinXP and me have been going on well with each other. Why should we divorce. My 15 year old bicycle and me have been going on well with each other. Why should I trow it away.. My VW beetle 1600 still runs 60 Km every day without a glitch. Why should I retire it. I have an old PC running win98SE. It does what it is supposed to do. Why should I trow it away. My wife is 55 years. Shall I retire her as well
You deliver a lot of noise, but no substance. Please stay away
Thanks